Do all walls have defender?

[Pretch]

Can't seem to find this in the rules?

[reezel]

I did a quick gatherer search and no walls don't have defender. I don't think there are any rules to a wall besides it being another tribe.

[Mentonin]

When walls were created, they had implicit rules saying they couldn't attack. Some cards can make a wall lose defender though

[Double-O-Scotch]

ie. {animate wall}

Great {doran the siege tower} card.

[Pretch]

So  {Axebane Guardian} would gain no mana from  {Cinder Wall} or any other older wall befor defender was added to the game? And thanks for your help

[Pretch]

The reason I keep persisting with this is if you  use the filter in this data base punch in defender select text then press done  {Cinder Wall} and all the other old walls come up.

[MementoMori]

Yes, they've been updated via Oracle. What you're seeing in Gatherer/the card database is their "true" rules text. So Axebane Guardian works with them.

[Pretch]

Awesome thank you! Time to bring out some five color wall decks with a  {Door to Nothingness} for kicks

[MuggyWuggy]

Wall is original defender

[Pretch]

Sorry to keep kicking a dead horse here. I believe we have established all walls have Defender but are all defenders walls?   {Rolling Stones}  {Animate Wall} will they work on  {Blistering Barrier}

[Keyeto]

Sorry to keep kicking a dead horse here. I believe we have established all walls have Defender but are all defenders walls?   {Rolling Stones}  {Animate Wall} will they work on  {Blistering Barrier}

Sure they will, {Blistering Barrier} is a Wall. Wall is a creature type, so not all creatures with Defender are Walls. {Gatecreeper Vine} comes to mind, as a Defender that isn't a Wall.

[Pretch]

Sorry I put the wrong card in there I ment {Rage Nimbus}

[Pretch]

But I understand now. All walls have defender but not all defenders are walls. Thank you