M14 new rules.

[Birdbrain]

On the other hand {bazaar trader} just became more strategic. You can now build a deck around him

[MisterJH]

On the other hand {bazaar trader} just became more strategic. You can now build a deck around him

WotC made the changes to make bazaar trader better, it all makes sense now

[Double-O-Scotch]

Ok, the planeswalker thing I can sorta understand. New(er) permanent type that threw me for a loop when they first came out. But the legend rule? Seriously? That is canon guys. I'm shocked. I feel betrayed. What's next? Stackable trample? Bs! Seriously reconsidering continued investment in MtG.

[MisterJH]

Its the land thing that kills it for me. That one literally makes no sense. Ramp is my favorite archetype and now its being neutered. Im only drafting from now on, if that.

[Double-O-Scotch]

I'm not sure if I understand the new land play rule. How would {harrow} work? Or is it effected at all?

[Mikefrompluto]

That land rule change is bunk! So is the legendary and planeswalker rules change. So you mean you don't have to figure out another strategy if you want to cast a {griselbrand} and your opponent also has one out? Of course not. Heaven forbid, the last thing they want to do is make people think. So stupid!

[Birdbrain]

They should have just had it this way to begin with rather than change something. Then again, maybe too many people were using {clone} to kill, and that was taking over the strategies of tournaments?

Anyway, they got people so used to using clone to kill that...it's like all your life having wings, and then suddenly you have arms. Your going to be clumsy with your hands probably for the first few years, and you'll always be running down the street flapping your arms trying to fly

I'm saying this goes against human nature in a way

[Birdbrain]

On the other hand {bazaar trader} just became more strategic. You can now build a deck around him

WotC made the changes to make bazaar trader better, it all makes sense now

i don't thunk that they had him in mind when making these rules changes

[Mikefrompluto]

They should have just had it this way to begin with rather than change something. Then again, maybe too many people were using {clone} to kill, and that was taking over the strategies of tournaments?

Anyway, they got people so used to using clone to kill that...it's like all your life having wings, and then suddenly you have arms. Your going to be clumsy with your hands probably for the first few years, and you'll always be running down the street flapping your arms trying to fly

I'm saying this goes against human nature in a way

If they were tired of people using {clone} to kill legendaries, then boo freakin hoo. You know what those players do? Have a tall glass of Man the .love. Up (thanks, Hayes, for that lovely phrase) and find a way to deal with the {clone}s. Thats what Magic is all about. In particular sideboards. It's a game of wits, not a game of "Oh I'll just piss and moan to Wizards until they change something." /rant

[Birdbrain]

They should have just had it this way to begin with rather than change something. Then again, maybe too many people were using {clone} to kill, and that was taking over the strategies of tournaments?

Anyway, they got people so used to using clone to kill that...it's like all your life having wings, and then suddenly you have arms. Your going to be clumsy with your hands probably for the first few years, and you'll always be running down the street flapping your arms trying to fly

I'm saying this goes against human nature in a way

If they were tired of people using {clone} to kill legendaries, then boo freakin hoo. You know what those players do? Have a tall glass of Man the .love. Up and find a way to deal with the {clone}s. Thats what Magic is all about. In particular sideboards. It's a game of wits, not a game of "Oh I'll just piss and moan to Wizards until they change something." /rant

i wasn't saying that's why. I was asking if that's why. And +1 for this

[Bman0121]

These are the dumbest rule changes sense damage got off the stack

[Double-O-Scotch]

It's like when they said "mana burn" doesn't work anymore. It just doesn't work the same way anymore... Sad face.

[All-Mana Mania]

I like it honestly. I hate the land thing but i like all the other ones. Its a change to the game and a risk they took. New players will like rhese changes, many vets wont, but i will. I think people just saw the same thing every time. Maybe they did it for those mirror decks. I dont know, but i dont care. It is still an awesome game to play and too addicting to stop. Maybe that is why they did it. Anyways, we have many removal in standard right now, You dont need like to sacrifice your legendary to kill theirs. I kill your griselbrand and play down a griselbrand. I dont mind it.

[Bman0121]

I dont understand the land thing?

[Iandtormentor]

The land thing is just dumb