M14 (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

[Vampyvyrus]

I respectfully disagree. Garruk is green and green can ramp pretty easy. I believe it'll see a lot of play in modern and significant play in standard. Though I do like this Chandra more then the others I believe it pales in comparison to Garruk. I'd much rather pull a Garruk than a Chandra...though I'd be happy with either lol

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Garruk could have been better.  That cards emblem...  By the time you get to it, you're library will not have those big creatures anymore.  That plus gets rid of them, thus forcing you to use the second ability.  Which is this card's highlight.  HOWEVER! modern is known for it's removal, and standard gets some too now.  So that big creature you invested those loyalty counter, and time on has been killed.  Third ability would be better earlier game when you have those cards in the deck to search for.  (Blame the first ability)

A closing message, do you have any idea how fast standard is?  Or how fast modern is?  Let me say this, when you're hands are tied with a game in modern that somehow stung out long enough for you to get this Garruk out.  That Garruk is irrelevant!  You would rather play something else because you life total is so low, you need a miracle.  Garruk isn't a miracle. 

When I say fast modern, decks in that format like to win turn 3-4.  Aggro-y decks do at least.  Control decks have you so pinned, that they just get rid of that Garruk before it hits the board.  Rites gets those big cards out much faster then this can.  It is a card that will be thought about, then dropped for better things.

[Vampyvyrus]

I'm confused...his plus puts creatures in your hand and the rest on the bottom in any order. This helps his second ability. How does his plus get rid of those creatures? Maybe I misunderstood you...it's been a long day.

Edit: ah now I see what you meant. I had to reread. I still believe he will see play due to his first 2 abilities.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

I'm confused...his plus puts creatures in your hand and the rest on the bottom in any order. This helps his second ability. How does his plus get rid of those creatures? Maybe I misunderstood you...it's been a long day.

It gets rid of creatures from your library, which hurts his THIRD ability . Which tells you to search your library for a creature, which you just took out.

Regardless, the card gets targeted, the abilities minus are too expensive, so when someone hits it, it is hard to come up out of the 1-2 loyalty hole someone put you in.

[Vampyvyrus]

I get what your saying. But the way I look at it is...you can drop him use his -3 put out a monster of a creature and he's still alive to draw your opponents attention. I like green and I'd use him for sure, but to each his own. If I played red more I might prefer Chandra.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

I get what your saying. But the way I look at it is...you can drop him use his -3 put out a monster of a creature and he's still alive to draw your opponents attention. I like green and I'd use him for sure, but to each his own. If I played red more I might prefer Chandra.

I don't play red.  But I will now, until rotation.  Due to, I like that I get card draw in red

[Vampyvyrus]

I like red don't get me wrong. But whenever I'm deciding on a deck to use and I have my 20+ decks sitting in front of me I never choose my burn decks. Unless its landestro or ping...those are fun just bc I love the look on my friends face when they realize what I'm using. I used to run a land destruction deck with {roiling terrain} as the win con lol. Games took a while but it was interesting. Until my friends wouldn't play it :/

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

I am playing this in a RUG deck standard now.  It is a miracle deck, with {Melek, Izzet Paragon}, {Temporal Mastery} and this Chandra.  So now, you see what you exile, and you can dig for cards using Chandra now.  Digging for the Miracles.

[Birdbrain]

Flicker, have you forgotten about {remenice}?
There's also a card in gatecrash that shuffled creatures into your library that would go great with the new Garruk

[Birdbrain]

{serene rememberence} was the card

[Vampyvyrus]

Eh I like  {Elixir of Immortality} for this effect better. If I'm playing standard that is. Modern...there's a particular spaghetti monster that I'd throw in instead...actually modern format has numerous cards with that effect so i guess it'd depend on my build.

[Birdbrain]

So this proves Garruk's ulti is playable, you just have to put a little work into it

[prayos]

So this proves Garruk's ulti is playable, you just have to put a little work into it

He's def playable in EDH, maybe even a Modern ramp deck.

[Boomer17]

Would it be better to buy a box of M14 or Theros? Need some help deciding? I see cards in this set that I want but do I buy a box or a fat pack or two and wait it out for Theros I'm at a crossroads and not sure what to do.

[Kaleo42]

Honestly theros. Reason being is that core sets generally have lower value in the long run.