M14 (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

Started by prayos, May 07, 2013, 07:03:26 PM

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Wally

Yes but how long is 'time' for you?
That was my question

Kaleo42


Wally

Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 04, 2013, 05:15:45 PM
50min in any sanctioned event.

Right I need to have a chat to someone, I dunno how long ours are, just seems shorter than normal.

All-Mana Mania

M14 seems like an exiting set to draft. A lot of cool weird cards I see, I like it. Good job to wizards IMO.

Birdbrain

When did aggro start running amok like this? And is modern any better?

Gorzo

Quote from: Birdbrain on July 04, 2013, 07:59:27 PM
When did aggro start running amok like this? And is modern any better?

Agro exploded with the ravnica block rotation. Scars of Mirroden went out, RTR came in, and standard was left with Innistrad block (a fast, low cmc block), RTR block (a fast, low cmc block), and m13 (thragtusks. So many thragtusks.)

As for modern, it depends in your definition of agro. Most top-tier modern decks are super fast, capable of winning consistently on turn 5. However, there is much more thought involved to them than "play dudes, turn creatures sideways, done."

Birdbrain

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Quote from: Gorzo on July 04, 2013, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on July 04, 2013, 07:59:27 PM
When did aggro start running amok like this? And is modern any better?

Agro exploded with the ravnica block rotation. Scars of Mirroden went out, RTR came in, and standard was left with Innistrad block (a fast, low cmc block), RTR block (a fast, low cmc block), and m13 (thragtusks. So many thragtusks.)

As for modern, it depends in your definition of agro. Most top-tier modern decks are super fast, capable of winning consistently on turn 5. However, there is much more thought involved to them than "play dudes, turn creatures sideways, done."
so control in modern has to be fast? And everything above 5CMC is poop?
Control is not aiming to win T5, but its also played by less people so you have more people running aggro sort of things. To play control in modern you have to have a lot of answers or be able to get find your answers when you need them.

Kaleo42

Unless youre playing tron with cards like {wurmcoil engine}, {karn liberated}, and eldrazi.
{Urza's Tower}
{Urza's Power Plant}
{Urza's Mine}

Birdbrain

Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 04, 2013, 09:56:36 PM
Unless youre playing tron with cards like {wurmcoil engine}, {karn liberated}, and eldrazi.
{Urza's Tower}
{Urza's Power Plant}
{Urza's Mine}
anyway to make higher CMC cards playable in that format? Like {mizzum mortars} or something?

Kaleo42

Modern has a lot of flexibilty and you never know what you will face. It isnt as opressive as you might think. USA control could easily run mortars.

Birdbrain

Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 04, 2013, 10:07:55 PM
Modern has a lot of flexibilty and you never know what you will face. It isnt as opressive as you might think. USA control could easily run mortars.
ah, good. So just curious. Are there decks that could go on to turn 15 or something like that? Or turn 10?

NyghtHawk

Quote from: Birdbrain on July 04, 2013, 10:10:15 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on July 04, 2013, 10:07:55 PM
Modern has a lot of flexibilty and you never know what you will face. It isnt as opressive as you might think. USA control could easily run mortars.
ah, good. So just curious. Are there decks that could go on to turn 15 or something like that? Or turn 10?
Yeah, I've seen plenty.

Birdbrain


prayos

No dual lands in M14, as per this article. I'm kinda bummed about this.

Mikefrompluto

Im excited to see what other lands we get.