M14 (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

[prayos]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

You mean {Render Silent} isn't reasonable?

[Death Gaara]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

You mean {Render Silent} isn't reasonable?

Correct. A solid counterspell is generally one that is two mana. Furthermore, when casting Render Silent, odds are the opponent will not have mana to cast another spell anyways in standard. Take it from a seasoned control player, Render Silent is not that strong of a counterspell right now. It is very mana intensive and requires 3 mana which control does not like. For the card itself, it is costed correctly. But for competitive play, it is lacking in the efficacy department.

[Apathy Reactor]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

You mean {Render Silent} isn't reasonable?

Correct. A solid counterspell is generally one that is two mana. Furthermore, when casting Render Silent, odds are the opponent will not have mana to cast another spell anyways in standard. Take it from a seasoned control player, Render Silent is not that strong of a counterspell right now. It is very mana intensive and requires 3 mana which control does not like. For the card itself, it is costed correctly. But for competitive play, it is lacking in the efficacy department.

i would have to say that {Counterspell} seems like a good counter spell, but I'm disappointed that the database has not included the newer one with Jace on it, that one looks cooler, but the same effect naturally.

[Death Gaara]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

You mean {Render Silent} isn't reasonable?

Correct. A solid counterspell is generally one that is two mana. Furthermore, when casting Render Silent, odds are the opponent will not have mana to cast another spell anyways in standard. Take it from a seasoned control player, Render Silent is not that strong of a counterspell right now. It is very mana intensive and requires 3 mana which control does not like. For the card itself, it is costed correctly. But for competitive play, it is lacking in the efficacy department.

i would have to say that {Counterspell} seems like a good counter spell, but I'm disappointed that the database has not included the newer one with Jace on it, that one looks cooler, but the same effect naturally.

It is, but they will not reprint it due to modern. I would be really surprised if it ever saw the light of day again in Standard or Modern based on the direction WotC is going.

[Silent1236]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

I would honestly be ok with a {Magma Spray} reprint.  {Pillar of Flame} is kind of a let-down to me

I understand PoF can hit players, but Instant speed is great.

[Death Gaara]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

I would honestly be ok with a {Magma Spray} reprint.  {Pillar of Flame} is kind of a let-down to me

I understand PoF can hit players, but Instant speed is great.

I second this. It is a solid answer to some of the annoying cards that have been printed. Although I am still advocating for Bolt over Spray.

[Apathy Reactor]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

I would honestly be ok with a {Magma Spray} reprint.  {Pillar of Flame} is kind of a let-down to me

I understand PoF can hit players, but Instant speed is great.

I second this. It is a solid answer to some of the annoying cards that have been printed. Although I am still advocating for Bolt over Spray.

I second this motion, (and I want a new Counterspell to boot)

[Monrodesign]

My local card shop said there's a chance to see {Birds of Paradise}.  Any news on it?

[Death Gaara]

My local card shop said there's a chance to see {Birds of Paradise}.  Any news on it?

I don't know. I was disappointed to not see it in RtR. The last time they did not print it in a core set, it showed up in the original Ravnica. So it would have made sense. No confirmation, but I would not be surprised if they decided to bring it back.

[Wally]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

You mean {Render Silent} isn't reasonable?

Correct. A solid counterspell is generally one that is two mana. Furthermore, when casting Render Silent, odds are the opponent will not have mana to cast another spell anyways in standard. Take it from a seasoned control player, Render Silent is not that strong of a counterspell right now. It is very mana intensive and requires 3 mana which control does not like. For the card itself, it is costed correctly. But for competitive play, it is lacking in the efficacy department.

What are your thoughts on  {Spell Rupture}? I mean most control players will possibly at least have a snapcaster on the field wouldn't they?
I do understand it is a conditional much like the way that  {Essence Scatter} or  {Negate} are, however in this current format of standard is it not reasonable to think you will have possibly even a 2/2 on the field?

[prayos]

My local card shop said there's a chance to see {Birds of Paradise}.  Any news on it?

I don't know. I was disappointed to not see it in RtR. The last time they did not print it in a core set, it showed up in the original Ravnica. So it would have made sense. No confirmation, but I would not be surprised if they decided to bring it back.

I'm praying for this.

[Silent1236]

Instead of quoting, I'm just going to agree with you here, DG.  I would definitely love to see {Lightning Bolt} over {Magma Spray} (especially now that zombies aren't a dominating archetype) and I didn't even think of a {Birds of Paradise} reprint!  That'd be pretty cool.

[Monrodesign]

Instead of quoting, I'm just going to agree with you here, DG.  I would definitely love to see {Lightning Bolt} over {Magma Spray} (especially now that zombies aren't a dominating archetype) and I didn't even think of a {Birds of Paradise} reprint!  That'd be pretty cool.

I really hope so, sitting on a play set.

[Death Gaara]

I am calling it now. I want to see a lighting bolt reprint. May be a little much with Boros Charm in the format, but it would also give them a reason to print a reasonable counterspell.

You mean {Render Silent} isn't reasonable?

Correct. A solid counterspell is generally one that is two mana. Furthermore, when casting Render Silent, odds are the opponent will not have mana to cast another spell anyways in standard. Take it from a seasoned control player, Render Silent is not that strong of a counterspell right now. It is very mana intensive and requires 3 mana which control does not like. For the card itself, it is costed correctly. But for competitive play, it is lacking in the efficacy department.

What are your thoughts on  {Spell Rupture}? I mean most control players will possibly at least have a snapcaster on the field wouldn't they?
I do understand it is a conditional much like the way that  {Essence Scatter} or  {Negate} are, however in this current format of standard is it not reasonable to think you will have possibly even a 2/2 on the field?

No way is it even remotely playable in a control build. Most control decks only play around 2 Snaps at the moment. Furthermore, it does nothing to help you in the early game where it may be relevant against a turn 3 Ral Zarek. The only solid counterspell we have right now is {Dissipate} and even then most decks only play it as a 2-3 of. We need a two mana counterspell to be printed to really have a stable control deck that is not too reliant on weak win conditions and late game counterspells. {Aetherling} was a step in the right direction. Even then, they just printed a myriad of cards to deal with SR, so it still does not even count for that much. I am pleased that they did decide to print a 2 mana removal spell for the Esper deck though. I feel it really needed that. Now if I could just get some counters . . .

[Wally]

So a reprint of  {Mana Leak} could work then?