Chosen at random

[Birdbrain]

My friend is arguing about choosen at random. He thinks he can just willy nilly choose

[Keyeto]

Choosing at random has to be done in a way where nobody knows what's being chosen. If your friend isn't abiding by this, they are going against the rules.

[Redrighthand]

I generally prefer rolling a die. Most people won't argue about that being a fair method for a random determination. As long as the die is rolled across the table as opposed to just dropped.

[Silent1236]

I've used die rolls and I've seen a guy just shuffle his creatures together, lean over to someone in a different game, and had them just pick one.

[5/9 Turtle]

I've used die rolls and I've seen a guy just shuffle his creatures together, lean over to someone in a different game, and had them just pick one.

I think the last thing that was said was the fairest, because he doesn't know what they are, and that game that you're playing wont effect his game

[adventus]

I've used die rolls and I've seen a guy just shuffle his creatures together, lean over to someone in a different game, and had them just pick one.

I think the last thing that was said was the fairest, because he doesn't know what they are, and that game that you're playing wont effect his game

Be careful of doing it this way with creatures from the graveyard.  Cards go to the graveyard in a certain order and some cards refer to that sequence.

[5/9 Turtle]

You could give it to them in order and kelp it that way, or write it down, or even memorize your graveyard like I do

[adventus]

Cards like {corpse dance} care about the order in the graveyard.

[5/9 Turtle]

That is true

[Wally]

I find dice to be the most consistent and most fair random selector. When from hand ({black cat}) for example I use a d6 and get the opponent to put their hand face down. Number off 1-6 (re-roll on 6 if there are only 5, etc) roll, dice decides. Move on. Everyone is happy.

[Mentonin]

what to do when there are 21+ to choose? i don't have d30s or the such, but i usually use a random number generator app i have

[Paraluke]

Dice is most neutral I guess. For anything else so long there is an agreement between u and the other player. If it is a big number, u can try a random number gen per mentioned by another guy, or for me I use the second hand (as in from a watch) or something.

Random numbers are simply to imagination.

[Kaleo42]

I believe graveyard order is not relevant to anything modern.

[adventus]

404.2. Each graveyard is kept in a single face-up pile. A player can examine the cards in any graveyard at any time but normally can't change their order. Additional rules applying to sanctioned tournaments may allow a player to change the order of cards in his or her graveyard.

404.3. If an effect or rule puts two or more cards into the same graveyard at the same time, the owner of those cards may arrange them in any order.