Ral Zarek

[Dudecore]

On another note: Return to Ravnica seems really boring creatively. Looking at most of the cards - they're retreads or stapled together.

Look at {Render Silent}. It's {Silence} and {Counterspell} stapled together...

{Sphinx's Revelation} is {Blue Sun's Zenith} with life gain attached.

{Ral Zarek} is {Ajani Vengeant} with a worse +1 and -2.

Kind of disappointing.

[Birdbrain]

Maybe there is a reason they designed the set the way they did? They can't print new stuff all the time. They need to take a break to build stuff up creatively. Or bring something back to work with another set. There is also the absolute power R&D has as well

[Dudecore]

Maybe there is a reason they designed the set the way they did? They can't print new stuff all the time. They need to take a break to build stuff up creatively. Or bring something back to work with another set. There is also the absolute power R&D has as well

Well that's pretty troubling if that is actually the case. Mythic is supposed to be a spot for creative cards that can't be printed at Rare - like {Epic Experiment}.

Not a spot to repair {Ajani Vengeant} or cash grab with {Sphinx's Revelation}. We got 11 new keywords in the format, that is very very good. Lots of mechanics. We did however get a myriad of repaired and stapled cards.

[Birdbrain]

I hope they start to appeal to veteran players as well as new players. Though the new world order seems geared towards new players. And I'm not sure that's going away soon

[MisterJH]

I wish they had more interactions with the mechanics personally, althought some may disagree saying they had plenty. I wouldve rathered a more streamlined set if they were so focused on dual-tri colors(which is unecessarily expensive, and i feel way more of a turnoff to new players than too many counter spells...)

[Birdbrain]

Actually. I've found the split cards to be reasonably priced for there effects. And the beck side of {beck//call} can be used in a kick @$$ combo

[Mentonin]

I disagree with zarek's first ability being worse than ajani's. they serve different purposes, ajani's serves to hinder your opponent's turn, while zarek's are better used to get him up to ultimate while either attacking (which makes your opponent have a hard time deciding wether to attack it and suffer the aggression of a UR deck or let it be and risk losing if the opponent gets 2 or more coins on his ultimate). It can also be used to re-set one tapping ability, or to set one creature which attacked to block again (which does protect him, like tamyo's)

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Maybe there is a reason they designed the set the way they did? They can't print new stuff all the time. They need to take a break to build stuff up creatively. Or bring something back to work with another set. There is also the absolute power R&D has as well

Well that's pretty troubling if that is actually the case. Mythic is supposed to be a spot for creative cards that can't be printed at Rare - like {Epic Experiment}.

Not a spot to repair {Ajani Vengeant} or cash grab with {Sphinx's Revelation}. We got 11 new keywords in the format, that is very very good. Lots of mechanics. We did however get a myriad of repaired and stapled cards.

Nonsense! {Urban Evolution} isn't even close to a stapled card 😄
I can see Ral being a toned down Vengeant now that you say that. He felt a little familiar, Vengeant is my favorite Planeswalker. Who knows, maybe M14, the set for new players, will change the course that we're on. (Highly doubt it...)

[Dudecore]

Missed {Urban Evolution}. {Divination} stapled to {Explore}. I could probably make a nice list one day if I put any effort into it.

[Birdbrain]

They did create some original stuff though. Although I agree if there just going to staple cards together, why not just print the cards in the set?

[Teysa karlov]

I've got  {Ral Zarek} and on Friday I'm trading him away before his price goes down  to much!!!!

[Birdbrain]

If you guys could rework his ulti, what would you do?

[Xaol]

If you guys could rework his ulti, what would you do?

I would add:
For each coin that comes up tails, draw a card
Or maybe I would add to his ultimate:
For each coin that comes up tails, Ral deals 3 damage to target creature or player.

[Teysa karlov]

I would make it. For each tails you oppnants gets an extra turn after you extra turns you have

[MisterJH]

I hate the new world order crap, it needs just a LITTLE more for older players imo.. I find standard a little uninteresting for how expensive and fleeting it is, but my lgs only does standard