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Started by Xaol, April 15, 2013, 06:33:32 PM

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#noided

Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 16, 2013, 09:36:49 PM
Unrelated to what I just said: what if the Anonymous group are staging these to attract attention to their agenda?

No

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: #noided on April 16, 2013, 10:33:44 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 16, 2013, 09:36:49 PM
Unrelated to what I just said: what if the Anonymous group are staging these to attract attention to their agenda?

No
Anonymous wouldn't harm innocents for attention, they're more along the lines of a Robin Hood archetype

#noided

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 16, 2013, 11:26:09 PM
Quote from: #noided on April 16, 2013, 10:33:44 PM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on April 16, 2013, 09:36:49 PM
Unrelated to what I just said: what if the Anonymous group are staging these to attract attention to their agenda?

No
Anonymous wouldn't harm innocents for attention, they're more along the lines of a Robin Hood archetype

Precisely. Targetting the Boston Marathon doesn't really fir their MO either.

Nepentheceae

I think the responsible people shouldn't be named, shown, or spoken about. Too many get satisfaction out of being "famous".

Silent1236

Quote from: Nepentheceae on April 16, 2013, 11:46:40 PM
I think the responsible people shouldn't be named, shown, or spoken about. Too many get satisfaction out of being "famous".

This!  They commit a heinous act and get their faces plastered across national tv and on the Internet. Too much recognition for scum.

MarduArrow

Found out today that one of my relatives was there, luckily he and his friend finished 30 min prior to the detonation

Piotr

Quote from: Xaol on April 16, 2013, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on April 16, 2013, 07:16:11 PM
Sadly it began much sooner than Aurora. Even before Columbine. There is an obsession with violence in our culture, that combines with a decline in parenting, discipline, and morality. Unfortunately, something needs to be done about that, which will never be able to be done at a 100% level.
I can only hope that the increase in media coverage and public outcry will make the federal government pass legislation soon. Comprehensive background checks are a must.

Legislation? I thought blowing people up was already criminalised, no?

Xaol

Quote from: Piotr on April 17, 2013, 05:03:53 AM
Quote from: Xaol on April 16, 2013, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on April 16, 2013, 07:16:11 PM
Sadly it began much sooner than Aurora. Even before Columbine. There is an obsession with violence in our culture, that combines with a decline in parenting, discipline, and morality. Unfortunately, something needs to be done about that, which will never be able to be done at a 100% level.
I can only hope that the increase in media coverage and public outcry will make the federal government pass legislation soon. Comprehensive background checks are a must.

Legislation? I thought blowing people up was already criminalised, no?
That's true, but there are many more measures that should be in place; I was talking more about gun control in response to the Columbine/Aurora tragedies (which were both shootings) than I was about the bombings, which may or may not be related to gun control. I say this merely because the run was dedicated to Sandy Hook victims and one of the bombs was close to the families of victims.

Piotr

I thought killing people with guns not in self defence was already criminalised?

MuggyWuggy

America is still shaky on their policies

Malachiracer

My band director ran, I'm glad to hear hes ok

Bozo_Law

Yea this was horrible.

Dudecore

I horrible tragic situations it is very important that we be level headed, and do not go throwing our freedoms away for safety. 9/11 was a tragic event, but the increased security has also unintended consequences.

Horrible things happen all the time, and it is usually not for obvious reasons. Bombs are illegal to use for murder, guns are illegal to use for murder - we can't thought police people or see crime in the future like Minority Report. We can't confiscate people's property and possessions, because without a right to your property then you have nothing. Something tells me that if you subject people to brutal background checks for gun ownership, shootings will still happen, the intention of keeping guns out of crazy people's hands will be no more easier, and you're allowing an outside entity have the power over your property.

No man should claim dominion over man, the same goes for the US Government. I'm not a gun toting wacko, I'm a socio-anarchist. Everyone has the right to their person and property - the Constitution does not GIVE you anything - you're born with those rights. People breaking those laws should be punished, with rehabilitation the goal. Some people cannot be rehabilitated so confinement is an answer.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: KangaRod on April 17, 2013, 11:28:06 AM
Shooting will not happen without guns it's simple.
How do you take illegal guns away from people who already own them though? If there's a will, there's a way. No matter what criminals will have a source for guns.

MarduArrow

Unfortunately it seems as though Americans enjoy killing each other too much to change, it seems as though every couple months I hear about something violent happening down there and it's a huge tragedy, the whole country is shocked, Obama makes a "never again, we are going to fight this" speech, and a couple months later when everything has settled down another horrible tragedy happens, the biggest thing coming out of Canada recently was Amanda Todd and that other girl who killed themselves because they were bullied, when will this stop?