Dimir Deckout

[DeathlyFoiend]

Dimir Deckout 75 cards, 15 sideboard 4 {Watery Grave} 4 {Drowned Catacomb} 3 {Creeping Tar Pit} 3 {Ghost Quarter} 3 {Nephalia Drownyard} 5 {Island} 3 {Swamp} 25 lands 4 {Kathari Remnant} 4 {Snapcaster Mage} 8 creatures 2 {Jace, Memory Adept} 4 {Archive Trap} 4 {Mind Funeral} 4 {Glimpse the Unthinkable} 4 {Damnation} 4 {Thought Scour} 3 {Devastation Tide} 2 {Surgical Extraction} 27 other spells Sideboard 3 {Echoing Truth} 3 {Chalice of the Void} 3 {Flashfreeze} 2 {Nemesis of Reason} 2 {Hurkyl's Recall} 2 {Surgical Extraction} 15 sideboard cards

[InfinitiveDivinity]

{Ghost Quarter} to force searching, I've been trying to fit it into mine, that's really good. What do you do against Tron though?

[DeathlyFoiend]

Just Ghost Quarters. In general, Tron usually has a great match up against decks that run B/U, so it is not the greatest game to play.

[abstractApathist]

What are your thoughts on {Breaking // Entering}?

[DeathlyFoiend]

Good, but outclassed. 8 cards is nothing compared to 10 or hitting four lands for 1 extra mana.

[abstractApathist]

I would see about {Jace's Phantasm}. It can be seriously useful in stalling for time or winning with damage.

[DeathlyFoiend]

So using Snapcaster Mage and the other creature for what you are describing isn't going to work?

[abstractApathist]

So using Snapcaster Mage and the other creature for what you are describing isn't going to work?

They aren't 5/5. Sometimes you need a big creature to deal with other threats.

[DeathlyFoiend]

So using Snapcaster Mage and the other creature for what you are describing isn't going to work?

They aren't 5/5. Sometimes you need a big creature to deal with other threats.

Yeah, I would just easily stall them without it and win through tapping the mainland sideways or milling them more than there deck could handle. It is a waste of space and more of an aggro route in a control based deck. It doesn't seem always reliable while other cards are. Did you know I have a card with regenerate?

[abstractApathist]

So using Snapcaster Mage and the other creature for what you are describing isn't going to work?

They aren't 5/5. Sometimes you need a big creature to deal with other threats.

Yeah, I would just easily stall them without it and win through tapping the mainland sideways or milling them more than there deck could handle. It is a waste of space and more of an aggro route in a control based deck. It doesn't seem always reliable while other cards are. Did you know I have a card with regenerate?

I noticed {Kathari Remnant}, but trample would allow large amounts of damage to get through to you quickly.

[DeathlyFoiend]

So using Snapcaster Mage and the other creature for what you are describing isn't going to work?

They aren't 5/5. Sometimes you need a big creature to deal with other threats.

Yeah, I would just easily stall them without it and win through tapping the mainland sideways or milling them more than there deck could handle. It is a waste of space and more of an aggro route in a control based deck. It doesn't seem always reliable while other cards are. Did you know I have a card with regenerate?

I noticed {Kathari Remnant}, but trample would allow large amounts of damage to get through to you quickly.

An what has trample besides {rancor}? I'd rather deal with that in other ways than waste a space for such a narrow card that would take away from the deck's purpose.

[Bman0121]

 {Undercity Informer} and  {Lingering Souls}

[DeathlyFoiend]

{Undercity Informer} and  {Lingering Souls}

Spashing another color wouldn't really help for just one card. Doesn't really do anything besides chump block for me. It is better when it can also be a win condition. The black card just seems arguably bad for milling since it only gives up to one land.

[abstractApathist]

So using Snapcaster Mage and the other creature for what you are describing isn't going to work?

They aren't 5/5. Sometimes you need a big creature to deal with other threats.

Yeah, I would just easily stall them without it and win through tapping the mainland sideways or milling them more than there deck could handle. It is a waste of space and more of an aggro route in a control based deck. It doesn't seem always reliable while other cards are. Did you know I have a card with regenerate?

I noticed {Kathari Remnant}, but trample would allow large amounts of damage to get through to you quickly.

An what has trample besides {rancor}? I'd rather deal with that in other ways than waste a space for such a narrow card that would take away from the deck's purpose.

How does {Jace's Phantasm} take away from the deck's purpose? It stalls for time against trample much better than  {Kathari Remnant}. Trample cards include (but are not limited to):  {Rancor}, {Colossal Might}, {Advent of the Wurm}, {Armada Wurm}, {Titanic Ultimatum}, {Lotleth Troll}, {Ghor-Clan Rampager}, etc...

[DeathlyFoiend]

So using Snapcaster Mage and the other creature for what you are describing isn't going to work?

They aren't 5/5. Sometimes you need a big creature to deal with other threats.

Yeah, I would just easily stall them without it and win through tapping the mainland sideways or milling them more than there deck could handle. It is a waste of space and more of an aggro route in a control based deck. It doesn't seem always reliable while other cards are. Did you know I have a card with regenerate?

I noticed {Kathari Remnant}, but trample would allow large amounts of damage to get through to you quickly.

An what has trample besides {rancor}? I'd rather deal with that in other ways than waste a space for such a narrow card that would take away from the deck's purpose.

How does {Jace's Phantasm} take away from the deck's purpose? It stalls for time against trample much better than  {Kathari Remnant}. Trample cards include (but are not limited to):  {Rancor}, {Colossal Might}, {Advent of the Wurm}, {Armada Wurm}, {Titanic Ultimatum}, {Lotleth Troll}, {Ghor-Clan Rampager}, etc...

Which, out of all of those cards, only one is used in modern basically. Phantasm is just a block the could die easier than remnants. I can regenerate and use again and again. Jace seems like a one time thing against most cards and is much better at aggression which takes a way from a control factor and does a lot less than Remnants and Snappychan.