What deck?

[Birdbrain]

Mhmm hope you will be able to find a way... I would be a little sceptical, but if it will work then only good for you..

as for replacements. I have a good feeling about Theros. Being Greek themed, we might get the amazoness creature type. They seem very {R}{G} so I might be able to find some replacements there

Edit: {leather back baloth} might be a good replacement if you can get the mana base for it
And I have 3. Anyone want to trade me the forth please?

[MisterJH]

Its no tarmoghoyf though

[Birdbrain]

Its no tarmoghoyf though

it comes close. Sure {tarmoghoyf} can become a 5/6 or 6/7. But is vulnerable to stuff that exiles stuff from the graveyard

Or {reminisce}. That card totally hoses him

Edit: never mind. It doesnt

[MisterJH]

It does NOT come close, hence the $115 difference in price

[Birdbrain]

Actually, never mind. If your careful about what goes into your graveyard, {reminisce} does hose him

Edit: I've actuAly thought of several more ways to hose him sense that post. So I'm sticking with the baloth

[MisterJH]

But how often is someone going to run {reminisce} only to hose a tarmoghoyf? And who is watching what goes into their GY? For every problem, there is an answer. The thing about le ghoyf is he drops for 2, is not color taxing, and is usually a VERY big problem, which needs an answer

[Silent1236]

{Reminisce} is bad juju.  Goyf still gets a boost from your GY and your opponent gets to replay those fetches, {Abrupt Decay}s, {Liliana of the Veil}s, etc.  Not really a hose IMO

[Birdbrain]

But how often is someone going to run {reminisce} only to hose a tarmoghoyf? And who is watching what goes into their GY? For every problem, there is an answer. The thing about le ghoyf is he drops for 2, is not color taxing, and is usually a VERY big problem, which needs an answer

{reminisce} isn't the only awnser I thought of. I've thought of several. And for more awnsers, look in the blocks before and after it came out, an even during. Wizards makes awnsers for everything in there games. His awnser just hasn't woken up yet

[Silent1236]

But how often is someone going to run {reminisce} only to hose a tarmoghoyf? And who is watching what goes into their GY? For every problem, there is an answer. The thing about le ghoyf is he drops for 2, is not color taxing, and is usually a VERY big problem, which needs an answer

{reminisce} isn't the only awnser I thought of. I've thought of several. And for more awnsers, look in the blocks before and after it came out, an even during. Wizards makes awnsers for everything in there games. His awnser just hasn't woken up yet

Any removal spell?  {Rest In Peace}?  Goyf is just as squishy as any vanilla card; no hexproof/shroud/indestructible.  Everything has an answer, but that answer doesn't matter if goyf kills you before you hit him with it.

[Birdbrain]

But how often is someone going to run {reminisce} only to hose a tarmoghoyf? And who is watching what goes into their GY? For every problem, there is an answer. The thing about le ghoyf is he drops for 2, is not color taxing, and is usually a VERY big problem, which needs an answer

{reminisce} isn't the only awnser I thought of. I've thought of several. And for more awnsers, look in the blocks before and after it came out, an even during. Wizards makes awnsers for everything in there games. His awnser just hasn't woken up yet

Any removal spell?  {Rest In Peace}?  Goyf is just as squishy as any vanilla card; no hexproof/shroud/indestructible.  Everything has an answer, but that answer doesn't matter if goyf kills you before you hit him with it.

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