Kids and Magic

[Missingkirby34]

Okay so the judge at my LGS feels like he needs to bring his two kids up when he is judging, one of his kids usually participates in whatever event it is, the other usually just runs around the store asking his dad questions all the time, anyway, these kids have absolutely no manners! The shove right passed you, interrupt you when your playing and just little things like that. They are around 10 years old, and the one that always plays in the events doesn't even know what he is doing, so his dad usually comes over and helps him, and by helps him I mean his dad plays for him, taps everything for him, tells him exactly what to play and when. The only reason this irritates me so much is because last Friday, I was about to beat him and his dad came over pointed out a move, and he won. That and the fact that his dad is a judge and thinks that events like that is the time to teach his kid how to play. Am I being totally irrational here or would you guys feel the same way? I'm 16 and don't usually have a problem with kids, but these kids just frustrate me, and it seems their dad doesn't care. 

[Almosteric]

A judge shouldn't interfere with the game. He is there to provide ruling and ruling only. Not advice. I'd mention it to the owner of the LGS and take it from there.

[Umbra]

I would report this, this is highly unprofessional of him

[Gorzo]

A judge shouldn't interfere with the game. He is there to provide ruling and ruling only. Not advice. I'd mention it to the owner of the LGS and take it from there.

This.  No one is allowed to advise players during an official game, including/especially judges. Pointing out a card that the kid needs to tap because he forgot is one thing. But telling him which spell to play and when? Sorry, that's a DQ for the kid, a win for you, and possible grounds for losing judge status. Not cool, and he damn well knows it. Ugh! I can't stand bad judges, I look forward to becoming one myself so at least I can be sure the people I deal with won't get screwed by bad judging.

[5/9 Turtle]

You should report him, it's unprofessional and if he wants to teach his kids he should teach them at home, and it would make sense that when judging his kids he should actually be more strict

[MuggyWuggy]

Yeah...keep your little 💩 at home. Kids are great and all but as an adult without them, they are extremely annoying at times to the point where you wonder: are these parents teachin them anything other than being little grubby bastards?

I felt bad for a judge/store owner with all the most random questions they get from kids who simply want someone to hear their voice. Hey kid: fracking read!

I guess I have little sympathy for kids being "kids" as although I was a little .poo., rarely a time did I find myself craving the attention of someone. Now a days it just seems kids act like jackasses without any thought to anything. They need to make some patience like cards to get kids to learn to wait.

"when spiny lobsta comes into play, put a growth counter on it. Every round if you play no spells, tap any permanents and tap no mana, you may put two growth counters on spiny lobster, if spiny lobsta has 11 or more counters on it: you win the game, only if you humbly announce your win and scoop your pile with order and prestige"

"Spiny lobster gets +1/2 for each growth counter on it, if spiny lobster attacks, remove a growth counter. If spiny lobster recieved damage this turn, remove two growth counters from it"

cost 2 blue is a 1/2 lobster creature


Hopefully that can teach the kids

[Hunteroffire9]

I know how you feal, I'm 12 and none of my parents play mtg. I realy hate when there parent sits next to them and just helps them, and then they say "he's new to magic
And needs help" and this is after they been playing for a year.

[Moneekahh]

Being young is no excuse. An 11 year old who plays at our LGS understands the game and holds his own. As a parent, I wouldn't allow my kid to play in a tournament until they fully understand the rules.

[Wackaman9001]

My old lgs owner(much better than the one where I moved to) had his kids in the store all the time. His son was about 8-10 but had a basic understanding of the rules. He never did FNM but enjoyed casual play in the back. I never had any problems with him at all. It just goes to show that some people are more able to control their kids

[Hunteroffire9]

Am i the the only good kid at mtg.., because I am normally the only good 12 or under in my shop, and every now and then other ones come and there not that good, I just have another friend that is good who plays junk rites.

Do anywhere people know anybody who is under 12 who actual plays comptetative decks?

And sometimes before the round one they ask if I need deck help, and I'm like, I think my wolf run junk is fine, maybe after
The tourney.

[Dmreiss]

Maybe I have a different opinion... My 10 year old plays and goes to FNM.  We have worked on her deck and she does okay.  She wins and loses.  Sometimes I will sit in on her match if I am done, and watch her play.  I have given her suggestions on plays before, BUT only if it does not change the outcome of the game.  If she is going to lose, then she is going to lose.  I will also only do it if her opponent is okay with it.  We play there often enough that the regulars know us and it is no big deal.  And then the big difference is I am not judging the tournament either.

[Juggalonoke]

I agree with everyone else. Tell the shops owner what's going on I'm trying to become a judge myself and just got done with the section on REL tournaments. That's a HUGE violation on the judges part.

[Missingkirby34]

This situation has happened to me multiple times and I've just gotten so fed up with it that ill kill myself, or just let him have the win. I haven't reported him because I don't want to see like that A-Hole person. But after reading what you guys have to say I think I will. Thank you

[adventus]

I suggest that you talk directly, honestly and privately to the judge about what's happening.  Give him a chance to fix it.