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Started by Viichanger, April 01, 2013, 06:16:29 PM

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Viichanger

Using clone to clone a creature on the battle field and opponent uses blink. Does clone not become opponent creature and clone dies because the creature was blinked and that creature isn't there anymore?

adventus

Correct.  It dies because it's a 0/0 shapeshifter.

Millionlittlee

Really but it enters as a copy so it is already the creature when the target (which it doesn't target) creature is blinked

adventus

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[Edited out some confusing stuff I wrote that makes no sense and won't help anyone]

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Gorzo

#4
{Clone}

When a creature is blinked, it comes back as a new object. It is not the same target, and an effect targeting it would fail to find it and fizzle.

However, Clone's effect does not target. It simply looks at the battlefield as-is on resolution and lets you choose one to copy. A flicker will not stop clone from choosing it, unless it blinks it out until end of turn, like {vanish into memory}.

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adventus

But clone doesn't target

Gorzo

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Quote from: adventus on April 01, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
But clone doesn't target

You are correct, edited my answer ;).

This is why we ask users to link cards in question. I had to link it with my post, double check the wording on clone, then go back and edit. No big deal, but it really help us answer more efficiently to have the card link handy.

adventus

So is it not a triggered ability bcs it doesn't start with 'when'?

Gorzo

Quote from: adventus on April 01, 2013, 07:51:47 PM
So is it not a triggered ability bcs it doesn't start with 'when'?

I'm not 100% sure to be honest, but I don't think it's considered a triggered ability. I think it's a static attribute of the card.

Keyeto

Quote from: Gorzo on April 01, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: adventus on April 01, 2013, 07:51:47 PM
So is it not a triggered ability bcs it doesn't start with 'when'?

I'm not 100% sure to be honest, but I don't think it's considered a triggered ability. I think it's a static attribute of the card.
Correct, sir! Clone's ability is a really weird thing that can pretty much only be described as an "ability". It's just something that {Clone} can do; it doesn't use the stack, doesn't target, and can't be responded to. Pretty cool!

scarsabrex

Would this not be considered a replacement effect?

Keyeto

Quote from: scarsabrex on April 01, 2013, 09:34:11 PM
Would this not be considered a replacement effect?
Actually, yes! It's a weird one, but technically:


419.1b Effects that read "[This permanent] comes into play with . . . ," "As [this permanent] comes into play . . . ," or "[This permanent] comes into play as . . . " are replacement effects.

Good call!