Whoever gets the last post wins!

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LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Kaylesh on November 01, 2015, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: Piotr on November 01, 2015, 03:05:18 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on October 28, 2015, 03:08:21 PM
I know, magic has the same with Alpha cards and promo foils that get super expensive.
But that still has some history attached. But I guess, even though digital, it's still art, and art is expensive because someone took a lot of time creating it.

To me it still feels like foiling out your deck with fancy promo's.
Yeah, looks cool and all, but it doesn't DO anything different.

Money is measure of change of happiness. In other words, when you make me more happy by providing something I want or removing something I don't want, you create change in my happiness and this change can be measured by me. When I agree to give this happiness back to you, this is trade.

Price is the agreed quantity of happiness being traded measured in money.

In other words, economy is not a zero sum game.
Buying something that makes me happy equates to me willing to spend more money on it, right?
So that means prices are subjective. What I view as a waste of money, aka too expensive, could be well worth it for someone else.

Precisely. That's why we graph what people are willing to pay and what companies are willing to sell for then meet in the middle.

MarduArrow

Quote from: Kaylesh on November 01, 2015, 03:54:59 AM
Quote from: MarduArrow on November 01, 2015, 01:33:05 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on October 31, 2015, 03:00:10 AM
Quote from: MarduArrow on October 31, 2015, 02:26:11 AM
Page 1111 make a wish :P
Wish I didn't google Warren Jeffs.. The name didn't ring a bell. Now I've got the feels. Then again he might have a lifetime of picking up soap. πŸ‘ΏπŸ‘Ž to those that abuse faith.

I believe you quoted the wrong post
No I didn't. Make a wish you said. Spoke out my wish I did..
Plenty of merry wishes to go around, one of which seems to have been granted: return to Innistrad..

Suddenly makes sense

Piotr

When we agree to happiness change, it is called trade. When one of us don't, this is called extortion and punishable under Ultimate Law. Taxes are form of extortion as noted above ;)

Kaylesh

Quote from: Piotr on November 02, 2015, 01:19:49 AM
When we agree to happiness change, it is called trade. When one of us don't, this is called extortion and punishable under Ultimate Law. Taxes are form of extortion as noted above ;)
Taxes as they are applied right now, are. When people agree that funds need to be redistributed for a common good that creates happiness, it can become trade.

Piotr

Or 'scientists' who can predict climate change and weather patterns in 100 years.

Kaylesh

Thing is, if you'd let the corporations fund everything, "research" proving cyanide prevents a lot of diseases would pop up.

MarduArrow


Kaylesh

Quote from: Taysby on November 03, 2015, 11:46:13 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 03, 2015, 06:01:25 AM
Thing is, if you'd let the corporations fund everything, "research" proving cyanide prevents a lot of diseases would pop up.

If that did happen, there'd be someone that disproves that to put them out of business.
It does, you know. It ends all life's troubles. Even cures you of bad habits, like breathing...
The example was a bit ludicrous, but things happen when you let the companies selling stuff fund and influence research. It isn't that hard to set up an experiment or create statistics to prove your thesis.
If I do a questionnaire in my household, I can prove that of a given, not further specified group, 1 out of 3 has less complaints after cutting gluten from their diet. 1 out of 2 have the genetic markers to develop coeliaki.
This data is flawed however, since the test group is so small and not random. Yet, often I see claims in advertising based on experiments involving a few hundred test subjects. How accurate are those claims? It is quite hard to check, unless you know what to look for.

TLDR: independent scientific research is important, IMHO.

LinkCelestrial

I did it. I bought CS:GO. Medium bots are easy...

Kaylesh

Quote from: Taysby on November 03, 2015, 06:59:51 PM
But government funding isn't the only place to get independent research.
In fact, government funding can lead to the exact same practices if a government want something proven.
But it gets harder to do independent research when corporate funds are buying "truth".

It would be great if both could coexist, but it seems hard.

MarduArrow


Piotr

If you start from form rather than content, you are doing it wrong.

Piotr

Quote from: Kaylesh on November 03, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
The example was a bit ludicrous, but things happen when you let the GOVERNMENT selling stuff fund and influence research.

There, fixed it for you.

Kaylesh

Quote from: Piotr on November 05, 2015, 01:03:37 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on November 03, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
The example was a bit ludicrous, but things happen when you let ANYONE do botched science to prove their point, rather then proper research.

There, fixed it for you.
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