Crows could be white

[Birdbrain]

Crows are a very social animal. Also, whenever there is a predator around; they all start ka'ing in unison and swarming the predator. This fits whites defensiveness. And mechanically look like "destroy target attacking creature" which is a very white thing. This also shows whites organization and relying on the group. They can even plan. There are other examples, but I don't want to overwhelm everyone.

[Birdbrain]

Also. When one does, the others in its flock take a moment of silence for it like a funeral. So they definitely care about others. A white behavior

[Birdbrain]

If you don't belive me. Read this

http://www.crowbusters.com/facts.htm

It's a bit down though

[Rass]

You could argue (insert any card) could be (insert any of the five colors). Just saying


Not trying to come across as a Richard.

[Birdbrain]

I'm not saying crows could be in any color though. They don't make since in {R} or {B}. So if your implying I'm just saying this just for the heck, I'm not. Read the evidence I posted under the section of there enemies. You'll see they fit well in white. Is there any evidence suggesting they couldn't be white? Please show it to me, or tell me why you don't think so. Actually there's more than just in the section of there enemies

They work in groups so there not black. And try think things through so there not red

They also mate for life forming monogamous bonds. Which is a white behavior. And they are not reckless, always aware of danger in there surroundings and taking steps to avoid it. When there is a cat around, and there is a fledgling on the ground, the fledgling will remain very still untill the cat goes away. A non-red behavior

[Frothandslosh]

Storm Crow is too overpowered to be in any other color. Can you imagine a red Storm Crow? It would ruin Standard.

[Dudecore]

I am coming to terms with your thread basis Birdbrain. I can say I appreciate your challenging of conventional Magic wisdoms. But Crows in Magic terms are fliers (blue) and are widely considered to be of higher intellect (blue). Blue also has a proud tradition of crows ({Storm Crow}) because they're fliers that does something blue does. Referring to the old color pie (pre-Mark Rosewater) is unfair. Because a color did something in alpha is not true color pie design.

Crows are not white and you know it. But I do notice you're trying to buck the trend of the Color Pie. At most Crows can be seen as shepards through the afterlife, mythologically. That doesn't fit white either, unless those crows are spirits also.

[MarduArrow]

Not this again -.- I'm staying out of this one except to say that crows are noisy and chase away the other birds and if they come in my yard my dad introduces them to the .22

[Birdbrain]

How am I referencing the old color pie? Explain please?

This is mark Rosewaters colum on the color white. I tried to think about it in terms if this

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr57

A little down. He talks about what white cares about. I don't think anything I said doesn't match this

[Vyse]

Crows are first and formost birds, and while some birds are white, crows have a distinct reason for being blue. Intelligence. They are also very curious animals, another blue trait. They may be defensive, but remember blue is also quite defensive itself,  {Kraken Hatchling}  {Augur of Bolas}  {Armored Skaab} to name a few that are relevant. If nothing else they cross into black, as they are very vile creatures outside captivity. They are mean spirited, are one of the carrion birds which will harm you greatly when consumed (very non-white), and a collective group is called a murder for a reason. I see no loyalty or law, no hope or protection, not even order or reason when I view crows. You had brought up some good points, but crows absolutely are not white.

[Birdbrain]

I never said crows arnt blue. And very strongly agree with you that they are. They are actually the most intelligent bird. They are cooprative. They care about each other. There monogamous in there mating, which suggests bonds, which is a white thing. Crows show some very white attributes that go grossly ignored because of superstitions. And folklore

White can be mean spirited at times too you know. And so can lions which are in white. So why don't they have black lions?

Crows have too cohesive a group to be considered black. They also form monogamous bonds, which is something black cant do because of lack of trust

[Vyse]

Alright, I'll bite again. Vampires just showed us in innistrad that they have very strong bonds, whole family's even. And before that I believe it was lorawyn, unsure as I wasn't around, but goblins were black and had family's as well. We can also look at the fairys from blocks past that are blue and black, also close knit. Another example? Merfolk are often considered communal as well and are blue too. As to the bonding for life aspect, I simply dont see that as a deciding factor. As an example soulbond exists in 4 out of the five colors, bonds Can clearly be shared outside white. I'm just defending what the designers decided. You know very well that the wheel overlaps into other colors and its for that reason creatures/spells have traits with sister colors yet can remain in said color. Crows are blue, angels are white, I get where you're coming from, but your arguement isn't holding up in my eyes

[Birdbrain]

Also. I think there "mean spiritedness" probably comes around the breeding season. Or when there fledglings are on the ground. There probably trying to protect there young

[Vyse]

You must miss out on the buggers fighting over rotten flesh. Superstitions start for a reason, crows might not be all nasty, but even monsters love their young.

[Birdbrain]

Alright. How bout saying there esper colored?
Although carrion is the only reason I would say that. None of them would be all black

Though I must point out that they have a very, very wide diet. And do not rely carrion as an everyday food source. So them being in black is a very, very weak claim. And they fit much more in white