Primordials

[All-Mana Mania]

How do you all feel about the gatecrash primordials??? Honestly I like all of them but  {Luminate Primordial}

[Quackmaster5]

How do you all feel about the gatecrash primordials??? Honestly I like all of them but  {Luminate Primordial}

It's basically a mass  {Swords to Plowshares}

[All-Mana Mania]

How do you all feel about the gatecrash primordials??? Honestly I like all of them but  {Luminate Primordial}

It's basically a mass  {Swords to Plowshares}

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[InfinitiveDivinity]

They're good for EDH and Limited, that's about it. In constructed they pretty much all have better replacements.

[Dudecore]

Not a fan. It's not because they're not good. It's because designing for EDH is silly. EDH to me is a rogue format. It is full of obstacles and things that make you work hard to figure out. It is so dependent on the meta, and what decks you're playing this week. Even netdecking doesn't help in Commander.

When Wizards designs for EDH, it is like when parents get involved in a kids game. One week you're playing "kill the man with the ball", next week you've got pads strapped to you and you're obeying rules. While "kill the man with the ball" should probably be a safer game, it ruins the spirit.

When wizards makes a product for EDH that drives it (like making {Kaalia of the Vast} and {The Mimeoplasm}), they're getting involved in territory that does not require their interference.

The Primordial cycle is designed for EDH, and if people play them, it's because they're too good not to play. The Meta no longer drives the need to play those cards, but instead Wizards does. Commander should not be like Standard, it is the very reason so many people love it. 

Edit: printing {Kaalia of the Vast} for the purpose of playing EDH is silly. It wasn't printed in a major set, a core set, it was designed and printed because "this this what EDH players like", and it is in a color combination where it is STRICTLY the best card to play. But what type of EDH players want this card? Well nobody in theory, it violates the organic philosophy behind EDH. They used to design these cards anyway, and they happen to fit the narrow parameters of EDH.

Wizards involvement in EDH, despite my love for them (I'll always buy product until my dying day) makes me wish a new format came along that they didn't design for. Leave EDH players alone! We will find enough things on our own.

[Stoneco1d869]

Not a fan. It's not because they're not good. It's because designing for EDH is silly. EDH to me is a rogue format. It is full of obstacles and things that make you work hard to figure out. It is so dependent on the meta, and what decks you're playing this week. Even netdecking doesn't help in Commander.

When Wizards designs for EDH, it is like when parents get involved in a kids game. One week you're playing "kill the man with the ball", next week you've got pads strapped to you and you're obeying rules. While "kill the man with the ball" should probably be a safer game, it ruins the spirit.

When wizards makes a product for EDH that drives it (like making {Kaalia of the Vast} and {The Mimeoplasm}), they're getting involved in territory that does not require their interference.

The Primordial cycle is designed for EDH, and if people play them, it's because they're too good not to play. The Meta no longer drives the need to play those cards, but instead Wizards does. Commander should not be like Standard, it is the very reason so many people love it. 

Edit: printing {Kaalia of the Vast} for the purpose of playing EDH is silly. It wasn't printed in a major set, a core set, it was designed and printed because "this this what EDH players like", and it is in a color combination where it is STRICTLY the best card to play. But what type of EDH players want this card? Well nobody in theory, it violates the organic philosophy behind EDH. They used to design these cards anyway, and they happen to fit the narrow parameters of EDH.

Wizards involvement in EDH, despite my love for them (I'll always buy product until my dying day) makes me wish a new format came along that they didn't design for. Leave EDH players alone! We will find enough things on our own.

Awesome thoughts...the only thing they should do is bring out new color combinations for commanders...that's it. Because to me the fun is finding a commander and building a deck. The more *new exciting potential commanders, the more fun the format becomes!