Presidential Debate

Started by tsul25, October 22, 2012, 10:41:29 PM

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tsul25

What are people's thoughts on tonight's debate and on the candidates in general?

Kaleo42

I feel a lot of the topics they have and will debate over are null and void in actually affecting the presidency. A majority of political talk is just for the sake of voters, not to say they are lying, they are both simply apealling to the voter's desires. too few people want to hear about what they can do to fix their problems, they would much prefer to hear what others can do to fix their problems.

CajunJynx

Both present a clear and present danger to the constitution and the liberties of the American people.

Milo109

Quote from: CajunJynx on October 22, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Both present a clear and present danger to the constitution and the liberties of the American people.
That's a ignorant statement

CajunJynx

Quote from: Milo109 on October 22, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: CajunJynx on October 22, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Both present a clear and present danger to the constitution and the liberties of the American people.
That's a ignorant statement
Want proof? I have the NDAA, as well as other supporting documents for both candidates saved to my phone.

Both candidates are funded by Goldman Sachs as well as most of the same interest groups and corporations.
Same poison, different flavors.

Kaleo42

Quote from: Milo109 on October 22, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: CajunJynx on October 22, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Both present a clear and present danger to the constitution and the liberties of the American people.
That's a ignorant statement
Actually i see some truth in it, but the constitution was writen in a totally different time without a fraction of the technology we have today.

However, the fundamentals do need to be protected. The problem is agreeing on what the fundementals are.

CajunJynx

Or you can check voting records. Or fact check statements they have made in an official capacity.

Milo109

Quote from: Kaleo42 on October 22, 2012, 11:06:24 PM
Quote from: Milo109 on October 22, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: CajunJynx on October 22, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Both present a clear and present danger to the constitution and the liberties of the American people.
That's a ignorant statement
Actually i see some truth in it, but the constitution was writen in a totally different time without a fraction of the technology we have today.

However, the fundamentals do need to be protected. The problem is agreeing on what the fundementals are.
That's exactly the point. What dangers do these presidents pose exactly? The checks and balances in the government make the impotent

CajunJynx

Or take an economics class and then go over both candidates economic plans.... Or spend enough time in the military to get a good idea of what the us really is doing overseas and how the media  lies and manipulates the facts, especially when it pertains to you specifically....

CajunJynx

Quote from: Milo109 on October 22, 2012, 11:08:10 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on October 22, 2012, 11:06:24 PM
Quote from: Milo109 on October 22, 2012, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: CajunJynx on October 22, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Both present a clear and present danger to the constitution and the liberties of the American people.
That's a ignorant statement
Actually i see some truth in it, but the constitution was writen in a totally different time without a fraction of the technology we have today.

However, the fundamentals do need to be protected. The problem is agreeing on what the fundementals are.
That's exactly the point. What dangers do these presidents pose exactly? The checks and balances in the government make the impotent

Have you been paying any attention to what has been getting through congress? What riders are being passed on bills? The executive orders our current president has signed?

CajunJynx

The ideas Romney is proposing?

I am not going to sit here and spoon feed an adult on what should be their own civic duty to be informed, especially since I can't post pictures/documents/transcripts on here through my phone.

CajunJynx

My very personal opinion is that we need to go scorched earth with 99% of the people currently in power. Launch investigations into every individual for corruption. Break up the Fed (why the hell are we letting a private bank run the federal economy anyway?), do away with the dept of education (which has obviously failed us), restructure the welfare system, cut spending on stupid .poo. (free cell phones for the poor), decrease our dependence on oil (nuclear power is thousands of times more efficient and costs significantly less).

Ace

This is why I don't talk .politics. with anyone. Cuz everyone gets so butt hurt over anything that is said that opposes their believes. 

Silent1236

It wouldn't be so bad if everyone would stay civilized and not flip .  Everyone has their own opinions and ideals ;). And this pertains to everyone, not just this thread.

smokin terry

Can any one tell me how many times the electoral collage has voted differently then the popular vote on past presidential elections?