New Jace EDH combo

Started by ecky, September 26, 2012, 04:33:43 AM

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ecky

Most of us have seen the {Jace, Architect of Thought} and {Doubling Season} for Modern to fetch their biggest guys and your 2nd/3rd/4th Jace...
I was thinking today how to best translate this into EDH seeing as you can't fetch another Jace, and stumbled upon {Wheel of Moon and Sun}.
Play Jace, w/ Doubling Season he's ready to go, crack his ultimate and choose to put him on bottom of deck using the Wheel. Grab him back out with his own ability, take a card of your choice from everyone else's library, and repeat 100 times to deck everyone!

Gorzo

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Fan-freakin'-tastic!
I'm already looking for a bant-colored commander just to run this.

Only downside is no way to tutor a planeswalker in those colors. Wheel and doubling season have {fabricate}, {enlightened tutor}, and {idyllic tutor} to fetch em... But nothing in bant can fetch have except for {long-term plans}.

Kaleo42

Just hit 5 color and lean heavy black tutor.

Wally

How about {archmage ascension}?
Works with doubling season too.

BlackJester

Just go with plenty of {U} card draw and stall.

Gorzo

I see an {Angus Mackenzie} control deck in my future.

Leonidus78

I wonder if anyone would ever even let this happen completely without just conceding. It would take a long time in a four player game to take 150+ cards from everyone and play them all for free in one turn. One of the most powerful combos I've seen in a while short of a permanent lock or something.

ecky

I'm pretty sure once you took the first 5-10 from everyone and showed the potential to take the rest, most people would scoop just to save the time. Same sorta thing happens with a deck called Eggs in modern, the combo takes about 10 minutes to execute so once they've seen it once they scoop once you start it off in g2/3 generally :)

Leonidus78

Decks like that are called solitaire decks for a reason. Because whether the game has hate or counters to stop it or not. It does its own thing regardless of the opponents actions. Hence you don't need an opponent at all. Unfortunately there is no solitaire deck that is 100% reliable so when you take it to a tournament you have a pretty small chance of getting first. Just because your deck could fizzle itself some of the times. Not to mention a well timed extraction or discard can easily stop an combo deck like that. "oh I'm sorry was that {banefire} the only way for you to win, oops."

BlackJester

Off-topic, but Eggs is actually a lot of fun to play solitaire with.  I'd never subject an opponent to it, though.