Delver Triggas

Started by Coffee Vampire, September 14, 2012, 08:35:12 AM

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Coffee Vampire

Can I wait to {Tragic Slip} a {Delver of Secrets} until my opponent reveals a card, and then in response to that I slip it before it turns into a 3/2? Or does the revealing and the flipping all happen at once, so I have to kill it in response to my opponent beginning to look at the card?

BlackJester

Nope.

There's no time between the reveal and transform.

Greg54js

Quote from: BlackJester on September 14, 2012, 10:41:53 AM
Nope.

There's no time between the reveal and transform.
Wow then my group played that one wrong.

Fishsticks123

Quote from: BlackJester on September 14, 2012, 10:41:53 AM
Nope.

There's no time between the reveal and transform.


Yes you can. The Delver dlip trigger goes on the stack so you CAN respond to it with a tragic slip.

Coffee Vampire

I think he is saying that while you can respond to the trigger, you can't wait until after the card is revealed, because the card is revealed at the same time as delver flips.

BlackJester

The ability goes on the stack, and that can be responded to. But once the ability starts resolving and they look at the card, you have to wait for the whole ability to finish before responding.

As I said, there is not point in time where they reveal an instant or sorcery but before it becomes a 3/2 for you to kill it with -1/-1.

Phat Max

HOWEVER!

If they have two delivers that are both unflipped, you can kill one in response to the other flipping.

Cheers!

BlackJester


Imdowd80

Quote from: Phat Max on September 15, 2012, 07:49:27 PM
HOWEVER!

If they have two delivers that are both unflipped, you can kill one in response to the other flipping.

Cheers!

?? Both don't flip at the same time?  Can I flip both on one turn?

Coffee Vampire

You can but the delvers are too fat to fit on the stack at the same time...I guess they are more like "eater of secrets".

BlackJester

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on September 16, 2012, 01:01:34 AM
You can but the delvers are too fat to fit on the stack at the same time...I guess they are more like "eater of secrets".
They're both on Le Stack, just that one delver is on top of the other.

Say you have a {Think Twice} in hand. The first Delver's ability resolves and you look at the top of your deck. If it's not an instant or sorcery, you can cast your {Think Twice} while the second Delver's ability is still on the stack in hopes that the next card will flip the other Delver.

Capice?

Imdowd80

So. I look at the top of my deck, flip delver A. draw step, then look again for delver B?
Or. Look at top card, not a sorcery for delver A, {think twice} draw, look for delver B?

BlackJester

Quote from: Imdowd80 on September 16, 2012, 01:19:10 PM
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Look at top card, not a sorcery for delver A, {think twice} draw, look for delver B?
This one.