New Eldrazi?

[Kaleo42]

Based on the reappearance of Tamiyo, is it hard to imagine a return to Kamigawa?

I wish i knew more of that lore, the bits i've heard painted it as a convoluted story. I could see the night and day cards of innistrad and dark ascension returning in a kamigawa revisit.

[BlackJester]

I doubt Tammy is heralding a return. Kamigawa wasnt a big hit with players like Mirrodin and Rav were.

Tammy was just convenient as a {U} PW that could be loosely connected to Innistrad while showing visitors from earlier blocks. I hope they do this more often, but I hate it when players moan about "why is there a random PW here from some other plane?" 'Cause that's what PWs do!

[BlackJester]

I would like to see them go back and do it much better.

It's a pretty short list of places to revisit. 📝

[Cindjor]

I think Kamigawa was underrated. People moan about it but it was "too thematic" with ninjas and samurais and spirits which does make them hard to splash. Kokusho the falling star and jitte, a lot of the Modern Banned cards are from kamigawa.

It's normally seen as a weak block but the amount of banned cards from it seem to state otherwise.

[Dudecore]

{Kira, Great Glass-Spinner}, {Konda's Banner}, {Bushi Tenderfoot}.

Players (including myself) didn't like Kamigama. The Legendary creature overload, the huge casting costs for seemingly nothing of value in return and the fact that the cards from the set were barely ever played in constructed tournaments or FNM.

Mirrodin was just a better set, standard had a number of cards from that block. Kawigama came along, provided a few cards (barely any) and people kept playing Mirrodin.

Even {Umezawa's Jitte} took a backseat to Mirrodin's protection swords. And after Mirrodin rotation, Ravnica: City of Guilds came out. The rest is history.

Edit: I applaud them for trying something new, starting a new plane and new mythology. But thematically it wasn't interesting to be Ninja's and Samurai, it missed a target demographic. Didn't add any cool keywords or card types that have withstood the test of time. It was "bleh" follow-up to Mirrodin, and a poor precursor for Ravnica.

It's possible for them to create new worlds. innistrad is a perfect example. Thematically it's a tribute to horror films. Zombies, Werewolves, Vampires. It was compelling at very least, and we walk away with as many staples for eternal formats as anything Kawigama has given us. ({Snapcaster Mage}, {Geist of Saint Traft}, {Bonfire of the Damned}, {Grafdigger's Cage}, {Griselbrand}, {Restoration Angel}, {Cavern of Souls})

[Ace]

I think my biggest Kamigawa complaint was the heavy emphasis on block-exclusive" spells, totally worthless outside of the set: {Minamo's Meddling}, {Hisoka's Defiance}, etc.

True of many blocks, sure, but I felt like Kamigawa was more guilty of it than most.

Agree, that set feels like if u want to play any cards from it that your deck needs to be from that set as well as your opponent. Every other set has a universal feel to it, like u can mix and match the cards to whatever u like (that is what makes magic so great), where as kamigawa just felt like if u want to use it then it needs to play from just that set.

[cltrn81]

Urza and Yawgmoth as PW = Epic.  Even Squee would be a cool PW.....way cooler than TIBALT, THE DORKFACE!!!

[cltrn81]

I agree about the Kamigawa set......that whole set just confuses me cuz I can't distinguish between all the weird names of cards so they all blend together.

[BlackJester]

I think my biggest Kamigawa complaint was the heavy emphasis on block-exclusive" spells, totally worthless outside of the set: {Minamo's Meddling}, {Hisoka's Defiance}, etc.

True of many blocks, sure, but I felt like Kamigawa was more guilty of it than most.

Arcane and Soulshift were very parasitic.

[UltimateArtifacter]

in my opinion the Eldrazi weren't powerful enough for their cost

[BlackJester]

I should add this to terms to know, but parasitic cards are ones that strongly encourage players to play with more cards like it, but nothing else.  It helps add cohesiveness to a set, but just try to play Kamigawa cards with the first Mirrodin stuff.  Modular and affinity didn't apply in Kam, and I don't remember too many spirits in Mirrodin.

They haven't made an Arcane card since.

Notice now how Inn block blends well with strategies already emerging from RtR cards.

[Greg54js]

in my opinion the Eldrazi weren't powerful enough for their cost

Seriously??

A {1}{0}cost 12/12 that draws you 4 cards makes an opponent sac 4 permanents when it attacks and shuffles your graveyard back into your library when it goes there isn't powerful enough for 10 mana??? Not to mention you can play them in any color deck...

[UltimateArtifacter]

I run a mono white deck that has a 8/8 Eldrazi with a mana cost of 8 and sacs 2 or 3 I forget which one

[UltimateArtifacter]

yes, and it doesn't do me any good

[DirtyMustachio]

I'd like to go back to kamigawa let's not forget tetsuo umezawa toshiro's grandson. And tetsuo kicked bolas.butt up and down. Who knows what they could do with all that storyline