Stonneybrook Banneret

[Thorn]

Does {Stonybrook Banneret} cost 1 or 2 mana?

[Mentonin]

2. Unless stated otherwise, permanent's abilities are only active when they are on the battlefield. Otherwise, you could destroy opponent's lands with {nicol bolas, planeswalker} in your hand

[Thorn]

If it was on the field then would {Sage's Dousing} cost less?

[Mentonin]

Yes, because it is a wizard spell

[Thorn]

Yes, because it is a wizard spell

That is awesome!

[Ghebert]

Oh my god. These in a delver, snapcaster, talrand deck. Holy ba-Jesus!

[Xanzurth]

So does that mean {talrand} cost 2 less because he is both a merfolk and wizard?

[KulrathKnight]

No (This has been answered on these forums before). Unless the abilities are separate, like {Balefire Liege} or similar, they only affect something once, not for each it would apply for. Each of the Bannerets makes a spell cost a maximum of {1} less.

[Ghebert]

Yea it would have to say:




Wizard spells you cast cost {1} less to cast.

Merfolk spells you cast cost {1} less to cast.

[Thorn]

Yea it would have to say:




Wizard spells you cast cost {1} less to cast.

Merfolk spells you cast cost {1} less to cast.

Still its pretty darn cool!

[Xanzurth]

I'm sorry must have missed that forum. Now with how MtG is always simplifying text and such. How does it not work since it say wizards and merfolk not wizards or merfolk? And can I have a rule reference please?

[BlackJester]

As your casting the spells, the mana reduction just asks one question "is this spell a Wizard or a Merfolk spell?"
If the answer is yes, you get a {1} discount. It doesn't care if it's both, just as long as it's at least one of the two.

[Xanzurth]

Ok then I raise then next question, why the wording of "and" if the question on the stack is "or"? Confusing word play the card and stack " question" should coincide, yes/no? Should the card not read merfolk or wizards to make it clear that you don't get both? Sometimes their making it simpler does not work and only confuses. While i still love magic, I say job well done R&D and DCI.

[BlackJester]

Because if it said "Wizard spells or Merfolk spells cost {1} less." players might think they have to choose one or the other when they cast it.

Their wording makes sense to me. I dunno. 😒

[Xanzurth]

The definition of "and" is along, together, in addition to, or added which makes people think that when a card read blank "and" blank, you get both blanks. Were as if a card read blank "or" blank, them yes you might have to choose are you casting blank or a blank. In which case does it apply to the situation. Just my two cents but who am I?