Floating mana

prayos · August 07, 2012, 01:57:28 PM

At my main phase, if I've got ten white mana sources, can I tap all of them, use 6 to cast {Planar Cleansing} and then once it resolves, use the remaining 4 mana to cast {Faith's Reward}? People where i play FNM have it in their heads that Cleansing destroys your hand as well, but i call bs since i cant find that ruling anywhere. Thanks!

BlackJester · August 07, 2012, 02:02:39 PM

Mana will empty from your pool at the end of each step. So you'll still have it right up until Combat Step starts. The only things that are permanents are what's on the battlefield. (CR110.1 if they don't believe you.)

Kaleo42 · August 07, 2012, 02:06:42 PM

"Destroy all nonland permanents."
That means destroy all creatures, artifacts, planeswalkers, and enchantments that are on the battlefield. Ill call on BJ for the ruling number that defines permanents, but just as a creature is a spell and not able to be killed by {murder} until it successfully resolves and enters the battlefield it can not be killed by a glorified {day of judgment} while in your hand. As for mana, you keep it until you change phases so yes you can reward after a cleansing, in fact i did it last night, that is the goal of my buddy's deck.

Edit: i feel like i should just write my posts as though you already responded to what im responding to BJ.

BlackJester · August 07, 2012, 02:11:22 PM

prayos · August 07, 2012, 02:11:24 PM

Right. I keep telling them they are thinking of {Worldfire}, but since I'm new to the location, I'm treated as if I have no clue. I had tried to do it at draft on Friday and pretty much the whole store was against me. And since we have no official judge for me to call on, I went with it rather than get upset.

BlackJester · August 07, 2012, 02:12:37 PM

Sorry to hear. Pretty surprising that such a large group of players be so clueless on something so fundamental. $:-\$

Falcon182 · August 07, 2012, 02:16:08 PM

Also, you shouldn't need to float the mana. Your lands don't get destroyed. I guess if you had a lot of non-land mana sources that would be destroyed that is one thing, but I'd say just use those to cast the spell then leave your lands for what comes next. Haha.

BlackJester · August 07, 2012, 02:18:26 PM

True, very true. You could do something similar with spells like {Balance}, {Balancing Act}, {Armageddon}, etc.

Greg54js · August 07, 2012, 10:34:59 PM

Quote from: Testset on August 07, 2012, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: prayos on August 07, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
Right. I keep telling them they are thinking of {Worldfire}, but since I'm new to the location, I'm treated as if I have no clue. I had tried to do it at draft on Friday and pretty much the whole store was against me. And since we have no official judge for me to call on, I went with it rather than get upset.
At draft? Really?

I don't even know where to begin...

Didn't we JUST start a thread about people misinforming newer players?

Yeah pretty sure we did