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Started by BadLuckIrish, May 17, 2012, 12:30:02 PM

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scarsabrex

everybody is forgetting that soulbond has no precedent. so the argument of how effective reminder text is doing its job is a moot point

Poof

I agree I don't care anymore. 

BlackJester

The wording doesn't state that the Peddler can only be paired with one creature at a time. You have to know what "paired" means in Magic-ese.  You're inferring that a soulbond creature can only bond with one other. It's still not explicit on the card. 

And, yes, I know how it really works. This argument is moot.

Poof

Is there an instance in magic where they used pair to mean more than 2?

BlackJester

Quote from: Poof on May 18, 2012, 01:38:46 AM
Is there an instance in magic where they used pair to mean more than 2?
Good question, let's find out:

Search > Text > pair -soulbond ('cause that's what we're talking about) - 'des'pair ('cause that's not what we're talking about) = 0
There has never been a card printed pre-AVR that describes paired, pairing, pairs, or any derivation. 

BlackJester

My point is, yes pair=2. But without any other details, why can't A and B be paired and B and C be paired?

A {Loam Lion}, {Abuna Alcolyte}, and {Avacynian Priest} walk into a bar. A pair of cats and a pair of clerics.

Quackmaster5

I know this is completely off topic with the souldbound convo but figured Id post my question here then clutter the rules section with more repeat threads.

If I have {Geist of saint traft} attacking, he creates the angel. Then before my turn is over, I {cloudshift} geist. Does that null the sac trigger on Geist or does the token have the sac trigger now?

BadLuckIrish

i want to say it stays. As C18 has said its the giest that sacs the angel not the angel itself. When u exile it and it comes back it isnt "linked" to the angel anymore so it stays.

BlackJester

It is not the Geist making you sac the angel, but a delayed trigger lying in wait.  This trigger is connected to the angel and if it were possible for a token to leave play and not disappear forever, you could {Cloudshift} the angel and it would come back no longer connected to the delayed trigger.  Alas, you cannot.

Quackmaster5

Quote from: BlackJester on May 22, 2012, 11:36:25 AM
It is not the Geist making you sac the angel, but a delayed trigger lying in wait.  This trigger is connected to the angel and if it were possible for a token to leave play and not disappear forever, you could {Cloudshift} the angel and it would come back no longer connected to the delayed trigger.  Alas, you cannot.

Damn. I thought about taking the geists out of my spirit deck to put them in my blinking deck for this reason. Gorammit. (this is not a typo, for those of you who don't know the reference)