Manifest a planeswalker

delregnr · February 09, 2015, 07:10:53 PM

so I manifest Sorin, solemn visitor and I use him to block. Before combat damage is assigned I pay to turn him face up. What happens to the block and what damage is assigned ?

delregnr · February 09, 2015, 07:25:05 PM

I figured it out five minutes later. Duh on me. Thanks

Oldschoolmtgnoob · February 09, 2015, 07:33:43 PM

My girlfriend ripped a {ugin spirit dragon} at the fate prerelease, and the only time it came on the board was manifested. So she tried to flip it and of course, got called for it. She was a little upset, to say the least.

Remillo · February 09, 2015, 07:35:04 PM

If you were to force a Manifested Planeswalker to turn face-up with {Break Open} or {Ixidor, Reality Sculptor}, it would be a Planeswalker with 0 counters and put into the graveyard as a state-based action.

Oldschoolmtgnoob · February 09, 2015, 09:30:26 PM

So a planeswalker has a presumed etb trigger to put the appropriate counters on it? Is that kind of the way it works?

Nymuera · February 09, 2015, 09:50:54 PM

209.1.: Each planeswalker card has a loyalty number printed in its lower right corner. This indicates its loyalty while it's not on the battlefield, and it also indicates that the planeswalker enters the battlefield with that many loyalty counters on it.

SoshiGanrou · February 10, 2015, 08:59:57 AM

Quote from: Nymuera on February 09, 2015, 09:50:54 PM
209.1.: Each planeswalker card has a loyalty number printed in its lower right corner. This indicates its loyalty while it's not on the battlefield, and it also indicates that the planeswalker enters the battlefield with that many loyalty counters on it.

Since it was manifested it was already on the battlefield with no counters. So if it is turned face up then it's has no cohnters

InfinitiveDivinity · February 10, 2015, 10:17:31 AM

Can you flicker a manifested creature for the actual card?

Remillo · February 10, 2015, 10:47:42 AM

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on February 10, 2015, 10:17:31 AM
Can you flicker a manifested creature for the actual card?

This is pretty much the base of the old {Astral Slide} deck and my shiny new {Brago, King Eternal} deck. If you flicker a face-down creature, it'll return to the battlefield face up. If it's a Permanent card, it'll come back as what it normally is, be it a creature, enchantment, Planeswalker, etc. If it's an Instant, Sorcery or an Aura with no legal attachments, it'll stay in exile because it can't enter the battlefield.