Killing a monstrous creature

[Giggle the Draco Genius]

This is not a question but I figured it was a relevant post as it goes against what we have been generally posting about abilities. Yes it is true that many of the creatures abilities are insependent of their permanent when used but this is not so with monstrous.

{stormbreath dragon} says when it becomes monstrous it deals the damage so if you kill it in response to his ability, he will never become monstrous and the damage will not happen.

Sorry if this has already been posted but this made me lose at GP Vancouver and made me sad

[Kaleo42]

So there are two things that happen.

Activate monterous ability:
Chance to respond
Monsterous ability resolves and creature becomes monsterous

Monsterous trigger:
Chance to respond
Trigger resolves

If you kill during the first chance to respond they have the option to monsterous again (if they have mana).

If you kill during the second chance then the ability will still do it's effect unless it requires the creature such as {polukranos world eater}.

[Presentjackson]

After activativing monsterous, i respond with {doom's blade}. My opponent can pay to go monsterous again?

[Ekann1]

After activativing monsterous, i respond with {doom's blade}. My opponent can pay to go monsterous again?

Yes. Their creature will still die when the doom blade resolves, but you can activate the monstrous again if you have the mana while doom blade is on the stack.

[Kaleo42]

Yes because the creature isnt monsterous yet because you didnt let the ability that makes it monsterous resolve.

[Ekann1]

Yes because the creature isnt monsterous yet because you didnt let the ability that makes it monsterous resolve.

However, if you kill the creature in response to the monstrous trigger ("When this creature becomes monstrous, etc) they won't be able to activate monstrosity again because their creature is already monstrous.

[Ekann1]

End result is a dead kraken and 4 tapped creatures and a lot of spent mana on my part

Yes.

[particle]

if you look at the gatherer for {shipbreaker kraken} it says that even if the kraken isnt around when monstrous resolves, the creatures will still be tapped, though they will untap like normal. so no need to double monstrous, itll resolve without the kraken.

[Kaleo42]

if you look at the gatherer for {shipbreaker kraken} it says that even if the kraken isnt around when monstrous resolves, the creatures will still be tapped, though they will untap like normal. so no need to double monstrous, itll resolve without the kraken.

You are confusing the monsterous trigger and the monsterous ability. One makes it monsterous and has to resolve for the creature to be considered monsterous. The other is a trigger that happens when the creature becomes monsterous.