Dumb ol hexproof

[Nobbert]

So I have a friend who has a green mana ramp deck where he can get out a very powerful {dungrove elder} with a {sword of war and peace} attached by like, turn four. Now that makes me rage pretty hard and i've been thinking of ways to get around this and I came across {Phyrexian revoker} and was wondering if it could bypass the hexproof since it doesn't target the creature itself but the card. Also, any other good standard ways to bypass hexproof?

[BadLuckIrish]

Yes it would work on te Dungrove howver the Tree has no activated abilities.

[Nobbert]

Wait what explain yourself.

[BadLuckIrish]

{Dungrove Elder} has hexproof which is a static ability. Its power and toughness ability is also static. Trigger abilities happen when something in the game causes it to work. Activated abilities require a cost: like paying mana, tapping, paying mana and tapping, or saccing a creature. For example {Grimgrin, Corpse-Born} saccing a creature is a activated ability. "When it attacks" is a triggered ability

[Nobbert]

Ahhh okay. Well then I can use it to slow down his mana ramping birds and Llanowars right?  What about primeval Titans?

[Nobbert]

Also, {predator ooze}'s counter abilities, will it get rid of those?

[BadLuckIrish]

Ahhh okay. Well then I can use it to slow down his mana ramping birds and {Llanowars right}?  What about {primeval Titan}s?

yes to the birds and the elf. Titan no. When he enters the BF and attacka it triggers and he gets 2 lands

[BadLuckIrish]

Also, {predator ooze}'s counter abilities, will it get rid of those?

No. Usually if the ability says "Whenever" its usually triggered

[Nobbert]

I think my dumb self understands

[BadLuckIrish]

I think my dumb self understands

Not dumb. I never understood till Jester taught me. Just remember lifelink trample deathtouch etc etc are static. Whenever this happens this happens is triggered. And activated costs something (and are instant speed^^ unless it says otherwise)

[Nobbert]

And that's why my deathtouch can still get a hexproof. It is static by activated. Yay!  Thanks.

[BlackJester]

you could get them to sacrifice it, a la {Geth's Verdict}.

[BadLuckIrish]

you could get them to sacrifice it, a la {Geth's Verdict}.

I carry two in all black decks

[loop-s-pool]

{Tribute to Hunger}, {Day of Judgement}, {Blasphemous Act}, {Black Sun's Zenith}, {Any Card with Deathtouch} All I can think of.