Ockhams Razor

Started by 5/9 Turtle, November 09, 2013, 11:35:30 PM

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5/9 Turtle

Does anyone know what it is?

Imink

No would you mind explaining?

#noided

You mean Occam's Razor?

It's a gr8 song by Porcupine Tree

Steerpike

It's the suggestion that if there is more than one theory to explain a phenomenon, the simplest one is probably right.

5/9 Turtle

Here's an example: Say a tree falls during a storm; one theory may suggest the wind blew it over, another theory may suggest that the thunderstorm cussed an alien spaceship to crash into the tree knocking it over. The first theory according to Ockhams razor is the correct due to its simplicity. So it's the simplest reason/theory is the easiest or most likely.

Steerpike

The most common example I've heard is when astronomers waaaaay back in the day didn't know why the planets exhibited retrograde motion at times. Some theory they came up with was a bizzare system of sub-orbits within their normal route. After heliocentrism became a thing, a much simpler explanation was realized that just has to do with the perspective from Earth during certain points of our orbit.

The razor is basically why everyone agrees that sub-orbits are a dumb idea

Dudecore

Occam's Razor, also known as the "Law of Parsimony" is the principle in philosophy and science that the simplest of several hypotheses is usually the best in accounting for unexplained facts, because it makes the fewest assumptions.

Making the fewest assumptions is important, because it is necessary to demonstrate, replicate and test any hypothesis. The one that postulates a 5,000 year old, invisible, omnipotent, imperial dictator as the creator of the universe isn't all that useful scientifically. Which is why occam's razer is often needed.

Kareason

Always a big fan of  this. The easiest summation I have heard of it is "If hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras".

5/9 Turtle

Quote from: Kareason on November 10, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Always a big fan of  this. The easiest summation I have heard of it is "If hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras".
The one I heard is " Keep it simple stupid"

gtfotis

Quote from: Mozilla butcher on November 10, 2013, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: Kareason on November 10, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Always a big fan of  this. The easiest summation I have heard of it is "If hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras".
The one I heard is " Keep it simple stupid"
That's what we say in the Marines, "KISS, Keep it simple, stupid."

Kareason

Quote from: Mozilla butcher on November 10, 2013, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: Kareason on November 10, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Always a big fan of  this. The easiest summation I have heard of it is "If hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras".
The one I heard is " Keep it simple stupid"

That works very well too. :)  Bare bones and to the point.

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Kareason on November 10, 2013, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on November 10, 2013, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: Kareason on November 10, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Always a big fan of  this. The easiest summation I have heard of it is "If hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras".
The one I heard is " Keep it simple stupid"

That works very well too. :)  Bare bones and to the point.
I always assumed the last S stood for something else....