Elite arcanist

Started by Moocow4u2, October 14, 2013, 04:11:02 PM

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Moocow4u2

Ok so I have a few things to ask here.

{elite arcanist}
{illusionist bracers}
{strionic resonator}

Ok so I have an elite arcanist and when it entered the field I used my resonator to exile a second card with it. Now it has illusionist bracers equipped...

{Boror charm}
{liturgy of blood}
Some example spells to use

So my first question, I cast a spell with my arcanist and the bracers copy the ability of casting that spell, does my resonator allow me to copy the bracers to copy the spell again and again?

My next question, the bracers copy the activated ability of the equipped creature and the ability of the arcanist is to cast a copy of the spell exiled with it so if I have 2 exiled, does this give me the ability to cast the second spell with my copied arcanist's ability? Because the copied ability is to cast a spell exiled with it and that second spell is exiled with it too.

Third question, this is where the example spells come in. I pay 2 for the charm and tap to activate the ability and copy the charm. Now the bracers copy the arcanist's ability so since the ability is copied the costs don't need to be paid, does this give me the ability to cast the second spell without any additional costs?

Example:
I pay 2, tap him. I cast a copy of the exiled spell without paying it's cost, in this case the charm. The bracers activate copying the arcanist's ability to cast the exiled spell without paying its cost and liturgy of blood being exiled with him is an option so I play that for free. A 5 cost spell for 2. Does that work?

MementoMori

#1
You can use the Resonator to copy the Bracers' trigger.

When you use the Resonator to exile two cards with Arcanist, the X in Arcanist's activated ability is the combined cost of the two cards. When you activate it, you get to choose one, both or none of the two exiled cards to cast. If you copy that ability, you get that same choice again.

Moocow4u2

Ok so the only thing I did wrong here was the arcanist's cost is the total of all cards exiled with him instead of just the spell I want to copy??

MementoMori

I made an edit because I got something wrong. If you have two cards exiled with a single Arcanist, you can cast both from a single activation.

So if you have Bracers on the Arcanist, and you Resonate the Bracers trigger, you'll be casting up to three copies of each card.

From the rulings on Resonator:
QuoteIn some cases involving linked abilities, an ability requires information about "the exiled card." When this happens, the ability gets multiple answers. If these answers are being used to determine the value of a variable, the sum is used. For example, if Elite Arcanist's enters-the-battlefield ability is copied, two cards are exiled. The value of X in the activation cost of Elite Arcanist's other ability is the sum of the two cards' converted mana costs. As the ability resolves, you create copies of both cards and can cast none, one, or both of the copies in any order.

Moocow4u2

Oh my god really?!?! So casting elite arcanist with 3 cards exiled... I pay the cost of all 3 and I can cast all of those?!?! Wow! I played with an arcanist dec last night but I assumed I could only play one card exiled so by copying it let me use a second. That's cool!