so what do you guys realllllly think about the new elspeth?

Started by DirtyMustachio, September 24, 2013, 10:35:26 PM

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DirtyMustachio

I can't wait to toy with {daxos, of meletis}

Kinda want the game to slow down to, but if it gets to slow nothing is more frustrating than a draw in time and next turn you would have won. Happened twice at the release...

I didn't pull anything really

Coffee Vampire

When it was spoiled, I wasn't too excited about it, because I thought of {Elspeth, Sun's Champion} in terms of old standard. Here's the truth, though:

She is a quality walker. For starters, she makes three blockers with her +1 ability. That's pretty good, because not a lot of creatures have trample now. And the funny thing? You should be able to buy at least 2 turns of protecting her by +1ing, because your opponent might have an x/3 creature that he or she wants to keep, so you can spend the first attack phase blocking just 1 or 2 guys.
Now for her -3. It's extremely relevant, especially now that that undying is gone, along with thragtusk. One of the most relevant creatures in future standard, {Desecration Demon}, folds to elspeth. I think her main strength is making 3 bodies at a time, though.
I would only use her emblem if a) I wanted to swing in for an alpha strike, or b) I knew she was being removed the next turn, and boardwiping wouldn't benefit me more.

I can see her being used well in UW control. I mean, the fact that I used to have no problem hardcasting a {Terminus} says something about her -3. Especially without unding or anything to worry about! Sure there's reanimation. But that isn't the point. Doom Blade isn't bad because your opponent could just reanimate the creature you just killed, is it? Elspeth is a solid 6 drop. 

DirtyMustachio

Man this is great help guys thanks a lot. I've been putting a lot of thought into my standard by release. I'll be sure to post a deck when I finish it.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Meh. She's a little expensive and her abilities really aren't that great (they're okay, not great for her mana cost). Don't compare {Garruk, Caller of Beasts} to {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Garruk is basically a tutor and can cost free creatures were as Elspeth can protect herself with chump blockers and destroy a couple of beefy boys. Garruk > Elspeth. On the other hand, Elspeth is nice with {Purphoros, God of the Forge} which is her saving grace.

EvACiDe

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 25, 2013, 08:51:00 PM
Meh. She's a little expensive and her abilities really aren't that great (they're okay, not great for her mana cost). Don't compare {Garruk, Caller of Beasts} to {Elspeth, Sun's Champion}, Garruk is basically a tutor and can cost free creatures were as Elspeth can protect herself with chump blockers and destroy a couple of beefy boys. Garruk > Elspeth. On the other hand, Elspeth is nice with {Purphoros, God of the Forge} which is her saving grace.

In terms of price, I'd buy Purphoros over Elspeth any day.