Boston

[Vyse]

   I don't get where people are getting their info, I've purchased two firearms in my life and I have gone through 2 background checks regarding my criminal history, you must provide I.D to prove who you say you are. These where at gun shows in Iowa, and I know other states have different laws on purchasing but you cannot just waltz into Walmart and purchase a baby killer 5000 without a background check and getting put on a waiting list.
  Even purchases from the Internet must be sent to a legal FFL liscense holder and previously mentioned background checks for them to happen so that scratches that out. It's not like people can't  get around this, but in most cases guns come into irresponsible hands illegally.

False.

http://www.nola.com/.politics./index.ssf/2013/04/senate_rejects_effort_to_expan.html

In the great state of Louisiana (my home state,) background checks are only required when purchasing from a licensed dealer. You can buy guns all day online and at gun shows, no questions asked and without being placed on a waiting list.

Did you read my full post? As I stated I was speaking for gun laws in Iowa, but you don't know what your talking about when it comes to buying online or at gun shows. Per ATF guidelines all licensed FFL sellers MUST perform a background check. The only exception is private dealers, of which there is little control over(and what the article was referring to for the unrestricted sales at gun shows) You cannot just order a gun online and have it shipped to your door (unless you own an FFL license) you must have it delivered to someone who owns an FFL license. I don't know each states full rules, like in California you can't even buy off the Internet, I was speaking for Iowa, but all states have the ground rules set by the ATF.

I'm also not going to turn this discussion into guns when it was for the victims in Boston, so I'll just leave it at this.

[Dudecore]

More people die in car accidents per day then die in gun violence. That is besides the point. The probability of you dying from gun violence are extremely low. I think it is the fear that sells the story. Mostly all of us, and most people you've ever met will never experience anything substantial in your entire existence. That is a good thing. Bad things happen all of the time, and of course we should attempt to prevent them - but we shouldn't strip people of their rights.

Odds are your child will never be kidnapped, you won't get shot at in a drive by, you won't die of bird flu. In some places in the world - these things are a daily occurrence and very real. It's sort of narcissistic, or at least misinformed, to believe these awful things will touch your life. When they happen the worst types of emotions come out. We shouldn't be saying in absolute terms humans are awful, and Americans are violent maniacs, when something like this is as unlikely as winning the lottery - and exceedingly so. We've got 350 million people in this country, and a certain few people are profoundly unlucky.

Can things be done? Of course. But the unintended consequences of doing it may be worse then the problem it's attempting to address. Once you lose something, you never get it back. No politician can ever run on the platform of de-regulating guns, because "what about the kids?" or "if that was your kid, you wouldn't be saying that." In the face of tragedy you need to focus on the problem - not the gut reaction.

Does anyone honestly think anyone supporting gun rights wishes those kids were dead? No. They're supporting their rights to retain their property. It isn't about allowing every nut job to get a gun. Gun violence is a very real thing, and something that should be addressed on a macro other then "take it away, and it won't be a problem." There are much larger fish to fry, violence is symptomatic of a bigger problem.

[Mikefrompluto]

   I don't get where people are getting their info, I've purchased two firearms in my life and I have gone through 2 background checks regarding my criminal history, you must provide I.D to prove who you say you are. These where at gun shows in Iowa, and I know other states have different laws on purchasing but you cannot just waltz into Walmart and purchase a baby killer 5000 without a background check and getting put on a waiting list.
  Even purchases from the Internet must be sent to a legal FFL liscense holder and previously mentioned background checks for them to happen so that scratches that out. It's not like people can't  get around this, but in most cases guns come into irresponsible hands illegally.

False.

http://www.nola.com/.politics./index.ssf/2013/04/senate_rejects_effort_to_expan.html

In the great state of Louisiana (my home state,) background checks are only required when purchasing from a licensed dealer. You can buy guns all day online and at gun shows, no questions asked and without being placed on a waiting list.

Did you read my full post? As I stated I was speaking for gun laws in Iowa, but you don't know what your talking about when it comes to buying online or at gun shows. Per ATF guidelines all licensed FFL sellers MUST perform a background check. The only exception is private dealers, of which there is little control over(and what the article was referring to for the unrestricted sales at gun shows) You cannot just order a gun online and have it shipped to your door (unless you own an FFL license) you must have it delivered to someone who owns an FFL license. I don't know each states full rules, like in California you can't even buy off the Internet, I was speaking for Iowa, but all states have the ground rules set by the ATF.

I'm also not going to turn this discussion into guns when it was for the victims in Boston, so I'll just leave it at this.

Did you even read MY full post? I was stating the regulations for Louisiana. Regardless, im not trying to argue with someone over the internet. As you said, this is about the unfortunate Boston bombing.