Illusionist's Bracers

Started by Thefluffymacheen, May 30, 2016, 03:38:57 PM

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Thefluffymacheen

My friend is making a  {Narset, Enlightened Master} turns EDH deck. We aren't sure whether or not  {Illusionist's Bracers} would work with  {Narset, Enlightened Master}'s attack ability.

particle

Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on May 30, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
My friend is making a  {Narset, Enlightened Master} turns EDH deck. We aren't sure whether or not  {Illusionist's Bracers} would work with  {Narset, Enlightened Master}'s attack ability.

Narset doesn't have any activated abilities and won't interact with {illusionist's bracers.} activated abilities have a cost, than a colon, then the result. Triggered abilities, like what narset has, begin with whenever, when or something like along those lines. You may be better served by using {strionic resonator} since it copies triggered abilities instead.

Thefluffymacheen

Quote from: particle on May 30, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on May 30, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
My friend is making a  {Narset, Enlightened Master} turns EDH deck. We aren't sure whether or not  {Illusionist's Bracers} would work with  {Narset, Enlightened Master}'s attack ability.

Narset doesn't have any activated abilities and won't interact with {illusionist's bracers.} activated abilities have a cost, than a colon, then the result. Triggered abilities, like what narset has, begin with whenever, when or something like along those lines. You may be better served by using {strionic resonator} since it copies triggered abilities instead.
Would  {Strionic Resonator} be able to copy planeswalker abilities?

particle

Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on May 30, 2016, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: particle on May 30, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on May 30, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
My friend is making a  {Narset, Enlightened Master} turns EDH deck. We aren't sure whether or not  {Illusionist's Bracers} would work with  {Narset, Enlightened Master}'s attack ability.

Narset doesn't have any activated abilities and won't interact with {illusionist's bracers.} activated abilities have a cost, than a colon, then the result. Triggered abilities, like what narset has, begin with whenever, when or something like along those lines. You may be better served by using {strionic resonator} since it copies triggered abilities instead.
Would  {Strionic Resonator} be able to copy planeswalker abilities?

You are having a bit of trouble identifying triggered abilities and activated abilities. An activated ability starts with a cost then has a colon and then after the colon is the result of of activating this ability. A few examples of activated abilities, {azorious guildmage}, {prodigal sorcerer}, {arachnus spinner}. To name a few. All of these creatures have a cost you may pay, and then once this ability resolves you get the effect stated. Planeswalker abilities, also known as loyalty abilities, are activated abilities since they have a cost (add or remove x loyalty counters), a colon, and a result.

Triggered abilities are different. They trigger when another event happens. Abilities that start when x happens or whenever x happens do this are triggered abilities. Some examples include {eternal witness}, {wild growth} and {deathgreeter}. Note that both activated and triggered abilities can be on enchantments, artifacts basically anything.

Oldschoolmtgnoob

Can strionic resonator copy that of an emblem? Like {Ob Nixilis Reignited}. I guess it would be your oppenent gives it to you, and you have the resonator to copy it back to him.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on May 30, 2016, 08:46:42 PM
Can strionic resonator copy that of an emblem? Like {Ob Nixilis Reignited}. I guess it would be your oppenent gives it to you, and you have the resonator to copy it back to him.

How would you give it to them? Planeswalker abilities are activated abilities. You could use it on his emblem trigger to make the person lose an extra two life.

Oldschoolmtgnoob

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 30, 2016, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on May 30, 2016, 08:46:42 PM
Can strionic resonator copy that of an emblem? Like {Ob Nixilis Reignited}. I guess it would be your oppenent gives it to you, and you have the resonator to copy it back to him.

How would you give it to them? Planeswalker abilities are activated abilities. You could use it on his emblem trigger to make the person lose an extra two life.

Yeah sorry, I was not clear at all. Once someone is given the emblem, if they have the resonator, would they be able to copy the ability of the emblem, and it looks like a yes. Thank you

Kaylesh

Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on May 30, 2016, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 30, 2016, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on May 30, 2016, 08:46:42 PM
Can strionic resonator copy that of an emblem? Like {Ob Nixilis Reignited}. I guess it would be your oppenent gives it to you, and you have the resonator to copy it back to him.

How would you give it to them? Planeswalker abilities are activated abilities. You could use it on his emblem trigger to make the person lose an extra two life.

Yeah sorry, I was not clear at all. Once someone is given the emblem, if they have the resonator, would they be able to copy the ability of the emblem, and it looks like a yes. Thank you
Confirmed. You as the affected player control the emblem, and it's triggered ability, even though it is detrimental.

113.2.: An effect that creates an emblem is written "[Player] gets an emblem with [ability]." This means that [player] puts an emblem with [ability] into the command zone. The emblem is both owned and controlled by that player.