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[Distriimuir]

Lol completely.  Emptying their hand just to fuel that thing was a pain. And of course turned off your racks.

[Spencer Addington]

Gonna test {grim lavamancer}

[Spencer Addington]

I need to cut a card and can't decide. Please help.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

{Grim lavamancer}

[Distriimuir]

Gotta agree, can't see a useful purpose with grim with the list you have. You already have enough burn and removal.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

You didn't want to use {goblin electromancer} in your storm list because it dies to removal, and that is a critical piece of the deck. I don't understand why you do that, then want to play a card here that is not even close to being useful, and dies to the exact same removal.

[Spencer Addington]

You didn't want to use {goblin electromancer} in your storm list because it dies to removal, and that is a critical piece of the deck. I don't understand why you do that, then want to play a card here that is not even close to being useful, and dies to the exact same removal.

I realized that yesterday. The lavamancer was cut, but now I need to trim the list. It's still 61 cards because I wanted a 3rd ravines crime and a 4th bolt. Any suggestions?

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

{Raven's crime}. You only need to draw one in the game and it is not even necessary until mid-late game when you are in top deck mode and need some redundancy. 2 copies should be plenty

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

Otherwise potentially a land could be cut. The top of your curve is 3 and as long as you hit 4 land drops in your first 6-8 turns you will be fine.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

Just to elaborate, in my list the top of my curve is 3, with a 4 drop in the sideboard. I only play 20 lands (2 of which produce colorless and 2 come into play tapped) and I can't remember ever having mana issues outside of the occasional variance-based issue. I generally have 3 lands by turn 4 at the latest and 4 by turn 6 and that is plenty. Every land after that gets discarded to retrace {raven's crime} or played to solely to keep my hand size down for {ensnaring bridge} if I haven't drawn a ravens crime yet.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

And I just noticed you don't have {blightning} in your list. That is one of the main reasons to even play red in a deck like this. Might be worth some consideration.

[Spencer Addington]

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You didn't want to use \{goblin electromancer\} in your storm list because it dies to removal, and that is a critical piece of the deck. I don't understand why you do that, then want to play a card here that is not even close to being useful, and dies to the exact same removal.\

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I was thinking about it and there is a huge difference between having a goblin electromancer out t2 when you have no idea what is in an opponents hand as opposed to having a lavamancer out t4+ when your deck is specifically designed to control your opponents hand. You don't do anything with your graveyard, so why not utilize it?

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

I would personally rather have another discard spell in that slot as your main win condition involves having their hand empty. Redundancy is important. But that is just a personal opinion. I also wouldn't play any creatures and I also think the red splash is sub optimal. Everyone has their own way of doing things so don't take what I say as gospel.