Bolas says: What hand?

Started by Kaylesh, June 30, 2015, 08:56:37 AM

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Kaylesh

Nicol Bolas

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Nicol Bolas}
1 {Akoum Refuge}
1 {Blackcleave Cliffs}
1 {Blood Crypt}
1 {Bloodfell Caves}
1 {Bloodstained Mire}
1 {Cascade Bluffs}
1 {Command Tower}
1 {Crosis's Catacombs}
1 {Crumbling Necropolis}
1 {Darkslick Shores}
1 {Dismal Backwater}
1 {Exotic Orchard}
1 {Forbidden Orchard}
1 {Graven Cairns}
1 {Halimar Depths}
1 {Jwar Isle Refuge}
1 {Leechridden Swamp}
1 {Meteor Crater}
1 {Minamo, School at Water's Edge}
1 {Opal Palace}
1 {Pillar of the Paruns}
1 {Polluted Delta}
1 {Reflecting Pool}
1 {Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace}
1 {Rocky Tar Pit}
1 {Rupture Spire}
1 {Scalding Tarn}
1 {Shimmering Grotto}
1 {Steam Vents}
1 {Sunken Ruins}
1 {Swiftwater Cliffs}
1 {Vesuva}
1 {Watery Grave}

33 lands


1 {Barbed Shocker}
1 {Blizzard Specter}
1 {Corrupt Official}
1 {Cryptborn Horror}
1 {Djinn Illuminatus}
1 {Doomsday Specter}
1 {Drakestown Forgotten}
1 {Echo Mage}
1 {Felhide Spiritbinder}
1 {Fiend of the Shadows}
1 {Guul Draz Specter}
1 {Hamletback Goliath}
1 {Headhunter}
1 {Hellfire Mongrel}
1 {Kederekt Creeper}
1 {Lavaborn Muse}
1 {Lightning Reaver}
1 {Malignus}
1 {Mogis, God of Slaughter}
1 {Netherborn Phalanx}
1 {Scythe Specter}
1 {Sire of Insanity}
1 {Slate Street Ruffian}
1 {Sygg, River Cutthroat}
1 {Vampire Nighthawk}

25 creatures


1 {Alpha Brawl}
1 {Antagonism}
1 {Aqueous Form}
1 {Backlash}
1 {Bituminous Blast}
1 {Bloodchief Ascension}
1 {Breath of Malfegor}
1 {Bulwark}
1 {Cyclonic Rift}
1 {Devour Flesh}
1 {Disaster Radius}
1 {Dismiss into Dream}
1 {Extra Arms}
1 {Fated Conflagration}
1 {Fated Return}
1 {Festering March}
1 {Foul Renewal}
1 {Lightning Greaves}
1 {Liliana Vess}
1 {Liliana's Caress}
1 {Livewire Lash}
1 {Megrim}
1 {Morgue Burst}
1 {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}
1 {Noxious Vapors}
1 {Price of Knowledge}
1 {Rakdos Charm}
1 {Reverberate}
1 {Shrieking Affliction}
1 {Skull Rend}
1 {Split Decision}
1 {Storm Cauldron}
1 {Sunken Hope}
1 {Swiftfoot Boots}
1 {The Rack}
1 {Twincast}
1 {Viridian Longbow}
1 {Volcanic Vision}
1 {Waste Not}
1 {Whispersilk Cloak}
1 {Wound Reflection}

41 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
Try to play top deck mode.

Kaylesh

This is a work in progress anarchy deck I'm working on. I'm trying to keep in a discard wincon as that's nice in par with Bolas' ability.

Thing is, I need to cut a load of cards, while maintaining the chaos and survivability.
So I turn to you: what to cut?

LinkCelestrial

{Anthroplasm}: Seems bad. It's maybe a big creature? Meh.

{Corrupt Official}: There's another card like this,
{Slate Street Ruffian} if you're interested.

{Grollub}: Just seems all around bad.

{Hostility}: You don't have very many things to trigger it. It may be worth keeping but I'm thinking meh.

{Spellheart Chimera}: Seems mediocre.

{Thought Devourer}: Why, why the hell
{Thought Eater}: are you running these?

{Dismiss into Dream}: This card. This beautiful, game winning card. I just wanted to say it's amaze. Carry on.

{Forced Fruition}: This is very dangerous sometimes. Dunno if I'd run it, yet again idk.

{Planeswalker's Fury}/{Planeswalker's Mischief}/{Planeswalker's Scorn}: These require cards in hand. You do a good job of getting rid of those without these so I think they're not good.

{Prismatic Lens}: {Darksteel Ingot} or something. Please?

{Psychic Theft}: Again you're mostly emptying hands already.

{Reprocess}: Seems bad without flash.

{Sisay's Ring}: {Sol Ring} pls.

{Traveler's Amulet}/{Wanderer's Twig}/{Wayfarer's Bauble}: 0 basic lands.

Suggestions,

{Shrieking Affliction}: I don't need to explain.

{The Rack}: It is one sided sooo...

{Lavaborn Muse}: It's like all of these suggestions are the same. There's also some sort of hound that does the same I think.

{Whispersilk Cloak}: You currently have nothing to protect {Nicol Bolas} with so. Here's this plus unblockable is just nasty.

{Aqueous Form}: Das nasty.

{Swiftfoot Boots}/{Lightning Greaves}: No hexing pls.

A final thought, this deck feels like two contrasting themes, discard and using your opponents hand. I recommended some cuts based on this but hopefully seeing that can help you work it out.


Kaylesh

You are absolutely right.
I started the deck with the idea of creating chaos and mayhem.
Then I needed survivability and a possibility to win, so I took Bolas' discard theme.

On the rules thread someone suggested the double cascade commander. Maybe I should split the ideas in twain.

LinkCelestrial

It was I that suggested the double cascade. It's a very different deck.

Kaylesh

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 30, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
It was I that suggested the double cascade. It's a very different deck.
Ah. Sorry, didn't check back who did.
I was thinking of turning the Bolas deck in an actual hand denial, and then use the cascade commander with the chaos cards, since cascade in itself is also a pretty chaotic mechanism.
Flavor win both ways, and it keeps me building :)

To answer why use {thought eater} and {tought devourer}?
To play with {confusion in the ranks}.
Put those in with one player, that player discards his hand.
It does totally conflict with some other things I was doing though, so they'll have to wait until the {goblin auctioneer} deck gets a try.

Kaylesh

{dismiss into dreams} singlehandedly kills any voltron tactic. I figured it is pretty evil.

Kaylesh

Major update.
Used Link's suggestions and gonna make this a discard deck.
More value for {cauldron of storms} and other bounce stuff.
Suggestions on how to get Bolas to deal damage to every player without sac?
There is that card from Origins that's really nice, {Chandra's ignition}, anything else like that?

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Kaylesh on June 30, 2015, 02:48:35 PM
Major update.
Used Link's suggestions and gonna make this a discard deck.
More value for {cauldron of storms} and other bounce stuff.
Suggestions on how to get Bolas to deal damage to every player without sac?
There is that card from Origins that's really nice, {Chandra's ignition}, anything else like that?
{Extra Arms}
{Blazing Torch}
{Heavy Arbalest}
{Livewire Lash}
{Razor Boomerang}
{Surestrike Trident}
{Thornbite Staff}
{Viridian Longbow}
{Wolfhunter's Quiver}
All these will allow Lord Bolas to damage opponents without attacking

Kaylesh

Quote from: rarehuntertay on June 30, 2015, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 30, 2015, 02:48:35 PM
Major update.
Used Link's suggestions and gonna make this a discard deck.
More value for {cauldron of storms} and other bounce stuff.
Suggestions on how to get Bolas to deal damage to every player without sac?
There is that card from Origins that's really nice, {Chandra's ignition}, anything else like that?
{Extra Arms}
{Blazing Torch}
{Heavy Arbalest}
{Livewire Lash}
{Razor Boomerang}
{Surestrike Trident}
{Thornbite Staff}
{Viridian Longbow}
{Wolfhunter's Quiver}
All these will allow Lord Bolas to damage opponents without attacking
Like, tx. Especially the Lash. Target Bolas, lose your hand!
The {extra arms} is also a nice one, possibly 2 players who discard.
Thanks again for the suggestions.

LinkCelestrial

{Power of Fire}, {Lightning Prowess} and {Burning Anger}.

I assumed combat damage. Bolas is disgusting.

Kaylesh

Yeah, Bolas is evil.

11 cuts left

EDIT: reworked with more focus on discards. Dropped the inspired critters, fun as they were, because of lack of ways to tap them outside of combat.
Edit2: Final 3 cuts made, {arcane lighthouse} didn't make the finals as I don't target creatures that much.
The rebound exile, while good to get rid of indestructibles, also didn't make it, could go back on that tough. ({Blessed Reincarnation})