Mind Spring

Started by Drayton99, May 14, 2015, 04:55:30 PM

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Brawler_1337

Quote from: lotrwk on May 17, 2015, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 16, 2015, 12:52:16 AM
Quote from: Drayton99 on May 16, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
What about {Jace's Ingenuity}?

Don't make me vomit. Such a bad card.
In modern, sure. But in standard... http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptdtk/Top-8-decklists-2015-04-11 check out shota's deck and Adrian's deck
Yes, but Mind Spring is not in Standard right now.

lotrwk

Quote from: Brawler_1337 on May 19, 2015, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: lotrwk on May 17, 2015, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 16, 2015, 12:52:16 AM
Quote from: Drayton99 on May 16, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
What about {Jace's Ingenuity}?

Don't make me vomit. Such a bad card.
In modern, sure. But in standard... http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptdtk/Top-8-decklists-2015-04-11 check out shota's deck and Adrian's deck
Yes, but Mind Spring is not in Standard right now.
I was talking about {jacesingenuity}

Brawler_1337

Quote from: lotrwk on May 19, 2015, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on May 19, 2015, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: lotrwk on May 17, 2015, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 16, 2015, 12:52:16 AM
Quote from: Drayton99 on May 16, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
What about {Jace's Ingenuity}?

Don't make me vomit. Such a bad card.
In modern, sure. But in standard... http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptdtk/Top-8-decklists-2015-04-11 check out shota's deck and Adrian's deck
Yes, but Mind Spring is not in Standard right now.
I was talking about {jacesingenuity}
You can't compare Jace's Ingenuity in this Standard format to Mind Spring because Mind Spring isn't in the same format. With that logic, I could say that Jace's Ingenuity is much better in this Standard than {Sphinx's Revelation}. It's nonsensical because Sphinx's Rev isn't in this Standard, and so we don't know for sure how good it would be if it was.

I'm not arguing that Mind Spring would be better than Jace's Ingenuity, but we can't be certain because no one can test it against Ingenuity in Standard.

LinkCelestrial

Let's forget about formats and straight up compare.

{Jace's Ingenuity} draws three cards for {3}{U}{U}

{Mind Spring} draws {X} cards for {X}{U}{U}

Technically speaking they are the same value for mana, however {Jace's Ingenuity} is instant speed. Which is worth about {1} ({Divination} vs {Weave Fate} for reference). However there's the flexibility of an {X} cost spell.

See {Searing Spear} vs say, {Volcanic Geyser}

All in all the mana efficiency is close to equal. (Leaning a bit towards {Mind Spring}. The debate would really be instant vs sorcery and if your deck is able to take advantage of the {X} cost.

IMO in a control/tempo shell {Jace's Ingenuity} wins. In a {U}/{G} shell {Mind Spring} wins. But honestly they both have better options.