Old school flip cards

Started by Avodroc13, May 18, 2015, 08:18:32 PM

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Avodroc13

My {Cunning Bandit} doesn't require a stand-in card to represent it's a flip card. I know the "element of surprise" with flip cards is the opponent doesn't know what the other side of the card does until it flips. (Implying they aren't familiar with it.)

My bandit has the flip part upside down on the card itself. Do I cover it up? Do I hope they don't read it? Also, when a card flips, does it enter in as a new entity?

particle

The bottom part of cards like this is public information whenever the top part is. You cannot hide the bottom.

Avodroc13

Quote from: particle on May 18, 2015, 08:37:24 PM
The bottom part of cards like this is public information whenever the top part is. You cannot hide the bottom.

So my opponent(s) will know what to expect?

Remillo

Quote from: CbStrad on May 18, 2015, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2015, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: particle on May 18, 2015, 08:37:24 PM
The bottom part of cards like this is public information whenever the top part is. You cannot hide the bottom.

So my opponent(s) will know what to expect?
Eeyup. One of several reasons why the Kamigawa block wasn't well-liked

I mean, with DFCs, if an opponent asks to see the opposite side, you have to let them.

Avodroc13

Quote from: Remillo on May 18, 2015, 10:12:48 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 18, 2015, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2015, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: particle on May 18, 2015, 08:37:24 PM
The bottom part of cards like this is public information whenever the top part is. You cannot hide the bottom.

So my opponent(s) will know what to expect?
Eeyup. One of several reasons why the Kamigawa block wasn't well-liked

I mean, with DFCs, if an opponent asks to see the opposite side, you have to let them.

What about morph cards? Can they look at those too?

Mr_Fahrenheit

Absolutely not. Morphs are specifically face down. Only you may look at a face down card you control. Flip cards aren't technically face down, one side is only incidentally.

Remillo

Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2015, 10:51:32 PM
Quote from: Remillo on May 18, 2015, 10:12:48 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 18, 2015, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2015, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: particle on May 18, 2015, 08:37:24 PM
The bottom part of cards like this is public information whenever the top part is. You cannot hide the bottom.

So my opponent(s) will know what to expect?
Eeyup. One of several reasons why the Kamigawa block wasn't well-liked

I mean, with DFCs, if an opponent asks to see the opposite side, you have to let them.

What about morph cards? Can they look at those too?

Morph is meant to specifically hide information.  The identity of a face-down card is private information.

Avodroc13

Quote from: Remillo on May 18, 2015, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2015, 10:51:32 PM
Quote from: Remillo on May 18, 2015, 10:12:48 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 18, 2015, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 18, 2015, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: particle on May 18, 2015, 08:37:24 PM
The bottom part of cards like this is public information whenever the top part is. You cannot hide the bottom.

So my opponent(s) will know what to expect?
Eeyup. One of several reasons why the Kamigawa block wasn't well-liked

I mean, with DFCs, if an opponent asks to see the opposite side, you have to let them.

What about morph cards? Can they look at those too?

Morph is meant to specifically hide information.  The identity of a face-down card is private information.

So I can look at two-faced cards... well that's good info to know. XD Thank yall.