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Started by imFourth of Phils, May 17, 2014, 12:59:05 AM

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imFourth of Phils

my turn, i cast {Unearth} (i got bunch of good 3cmc creatures in graveyard) but before that i ask my opponent if its good or not (meaning he may counter it)

he asked me too, what do i target, so he may decide if he will counter it or not, then argue starts

i said, im not telling thats why i asked him if {Unearth} is good to cast or not, and he keeps asking what do i target..just to end the arguement i target random card and he countered it,

just want to clarify the situation, i have the right not to tell what im getting right? its kind of annoying cuz im at my set up mode


thanks for answering

Sardok

You have to target a creature card with {Unearth} as you cast it.

Your opponent is correct.

imFourth of Phils

ohhh, thanks thanks mates :)

Pleeb

Rule 601 deals with casting a spell. Specific to this question, rule 601.2c says that you must declare each target for the spell when you put it onto the stack. By the time you have finished casting the spell and pass priority so your opponent can respond, they get to know what you are targeting. Targets can't be changed once chosen unless an effect specifically allows you to.

601.2c: The player announces his or her choice of an appropriate player, object, or zone for each target the spell requires. A spell may require some targets only if an alternative or additional cost (such as a buyback or kicker cost), or a particular mode, was chosen for it; otherwise, the spell is cast as though it did not require those targets. If the spell has a variable number of targets, the player announces how many targets he or she will choose before he or she announces those targets. The same target can't be chosen multiple times for any one instance of the word "target" on the spell. However, if the spell uses the word "target" in multiple places, the same object, player, or zone can be chosen once for each instance of the word "target" (as long as it fits the targeting criteria). If any effects say that an object or player must be chosen as a target, the player chooses targets so that he or she obeys the maximum possible number of such effects without violating any rules or effects that say that an object or player can't be chosen as a target. The chosen players, objects, and/or zones each become a target of that spell. (Any abilities that trigger when those players, objects, and/or zones become the target of a spell trigger at this point; they'll wait to be put on the stack until the spell has finished being cast.)
Example: If a spell says "Tap two target creatures," then the same creature can't be chosen twice; the spell requires two different legal targets. A spell that says "Destroy target artifact and target land," however, can target the same artifact land twice because it uses the word "target" in multiple places.

mtdewaddict

Somewhat along the same lines...if I cast  {Tempt with Vengeance}, if my opponent(s) choose to take the 1/1s, am I able to  {Gather Specimens} in response and take control of the creatures they put into play?

Sardok

Quote from: mtdewaddict on May 17, 2014, 07:07:06 AM
Somewhat along the same lines...if I cast  {Tempt with Vengeance}, if my opponent(s) choose to take the 1/1s, am I able to  {Gather Specimens} in response and take control of the creatures they put into play?

No.

{Tempt with Vengeance} has to resolve before your opponents choose. If you {Gather Specimens} in response, they could simply choose not to get the elementals when {Tempt with Vengeance} resolves.

Also, please open a new thread for a new question next time.

Ekann1

I wanted to point something out. While it is not the same as the original question, spells like {oblivion ring}, {banishing light}, and {Detention sphere} and creatures like {Banisher priest} and {Fiend hunter} all exile something as an enter the battlefield trigger. This means that you only have to tell your opponent what you are targeting after they resolve.

imFourth of Phils

okay this time, i cast {Overmaster} and he asked again what shall i cast, do i have to tell him too?

sorry for my annoying questions,
but
thanks

imFourth of Phils

this doesn't really matter since {Overmaster} is just a key card or bluff card, im planning to cast either {Through the Breach} or {Show and Tell}

thanks

Nymuera

No, and you are not annoying at all. Remember the only stupid question is the one unasked.

Remillo

Quote from: imFourth of Phils on May 18, 2014, 12:28:52 AM
okay this time, i cast {Overmaster} and he asked again what shall i cast, do i have to tell him too?

sorry for my annoying questions,
but
thanks

For Overmaster, no, since it doesn't target anything.  It just effects the next thing you happen to play.  Heck, you could just be casting it to draw a card, for all he knows.

imFourth of Phils

thank you mates :)

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 17, 2014, 01:12:10 AM
You do not have to tell them but before it resolves or when you put the card on the battlefield then they can use an instant to conter it yes. But it does not say you have to 'reveal' the card before placing it on the battlefield. But once on the battlefield they see it and can 'instant' counter it:)

Please cite rulings before answering if you are not 100% sure. Misinformation is a terrible thing in magic.