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Started by imFourth of Phils, April 16, 2014, 02:03:21 AM

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imFourth of Phils

if i control a creature from opponent using {Dominating Licid} and that creature dies in combat, is it directed to his graveyard? or will return in opponents control again? what will happen to the licid?

thanks and sorry for so many questions

Giggle the Draco Genius

Since Licid is an enchantment - aura at the time it will go to your graveyard

704.5n If an Aura is attached to an illegal object or player, or is not attached to an object or player, that Aura is put into its owner's graveyard.

The enchanted creature would go to the owner's graveyard

404.1. A player's graveyard is his or her discard pile. Any object that's countered, discarded, destroyed, or sacrificed is put on top of its owner's graveyard, as is any instant or sorcery spell that's finished resolving. Each player's graveyard starts out empty.

imFourth of Phils

thanks,  but is there any way to save the licid? idk if the 2nd ability can save it..

TreeTopSky

If you chose to end the ability, it would resolve and be put into your graveyard either way. If the opponents creature didnt die, then your opponent would regain control of it.

imFourth of Phils


particle

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Quote from: TreeTopSky on April 16, 2014, 05:07:36 AM
If you chose to end the ability, it would resolve and be put into your graveyard either way. If the opponents creature didnt die, then your opponent would regain control of it.

wait if you choose to end the aura ability, then the licid will become a 1/1 again and not die.

Jlamb5

Quote from: particle on April 16, 2014, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: TreeTopSky on April 16, 2014, 05:07:36 AM
If you chose to end the ability, it would resolve and be put into your graveyard either way. If the opponents creature didnt die, then your opponent would regain control of it.

wait if yoy choose to end the aura ability, then the licid will become a 1/1 again and not die.

^^ this

If you pay the U you end the "enchantment - aura" ability and change it back to being a creature with the original abilities and information. The creature that was enchanted will die and you will have a reusable ability again!

Pleeb

So losing control of the creature doesn't change the fact that it is currently attacking what is now its controller?  If that's the case,  attack and before blockers are declared release him and steal a different creature.

Giggle the Draco Genius

Once the damage has been done you don't have time to activate the remove ability it would die and your aura would end up in the graveyard.

If you activate the ability before damage is applied you will get to keep the aura (which would now be a creature again) but they would also get their creature back.
When a creature changes controller it is removed from combat.

506.4. A permanent is removed from combat if it leaves the battlefield, if its controller changes, if it phases out, if an effect specifically removes it from combat, if it's a planeswalker that's being attacked and stops being a planeswalker, or if it's an attacking or blocking creature that regenerates (see rule 701.12) or stops being a creature. A creature that's removed from combat stops being an attacking, blocking, blocked, and/or unblocked creature. A planeswalker that's removed from combat stops being attacked.

Pleeb

It sounded too good to be true