God Removal

Started by particle, March 17, 2014, 01:59:34 AM

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rarehuntertay

Quote from: Keyeto on March 17, 2014, 01:56:51 PM


Now as far as the whole {Giant Growth} thing goes. The creature will survive, as long as te growth resolves first.

If the growth does not, then it will be burned to death as a 0/1. If not, then we get to some fun layering rulings:

Layer 7b (changing P/T to specific numbers) comes first, even though the giant growth resolved first, this means that {Turn//Burn}'s P/T modification will APPLY first. This will turn the creature into a 0/1.

Next we have layer 7c, which are P/T modifying effects that don't set to specific numbers, such as our {Giant Growth} effect. The growth will pump them up, and allow them to survive the 2 damage from burn.

A bit confusing, as it seems like things are going off in between the resolution of {Turn//Burn}. But it's how the game checks the state of the creature, even if it seems a bit weird.

This is why people hate layer questions ;)

Mr_Fahrenheit

I said thassa would live. Keyoto said thassa lives as long as giant growth resolved first. Great minds think alike right ;)

I was just pointing out that it doesn't matter if {giant growth} was cast first and resolves before turn//burn is even cast, or if it is put on the stack afterwards and resolves first. The layering means its effects are always applied last.

gtfotis

Quote from: Noblellama on March 17, 2014, 07:00:03 PM
To clarify, thassa dies to turn/burn
Which was the initial question, giant growth simply got thrown in the mess.