Karn and AWOL

[Anoobass]

{Karn Liberated}
{AWOL}

Would the creature come back in the new game karn creates, if so I guess it's not "absolutely-removed-from-the-freaking-game-forever zone"

[abstractApathist]

You'd have to ask MaRo (the one and only un-rules judge) if you want a real ruling. Otherwise, whatever you and your friends decide is what goes. Gotta love un-cards

RESOLVED

[Anoobass]

You'd have to ask MaRo (the one and only un-rules judge) if you want a real ruling. Otherwise, whatever you and your friends decide is what goes. Gotta love un-cards

More than life itself, where is un3 when you need it.

[Gorzo]

Well... Looking at this as logically as possibly (considering an Un-card is involved), I don't see any way for Karn and AWOL to interact. If it was exiled by Karn, there's no way it could be targeted and absolutely-removed-from-the-freaking-game-forever by AWOL, and visa versa, right?

[Anoobass]

Sorry didn't make a situation where this would happen, john attacks jane with {Avacyn, Angel of Hope}.  Jane casts {AWOL} in response, avacyn is now in the "absolutely-removed-from-the-freaking-game-forever" zone.  John casts {Karn Liberated} and 2 turns later ultimates.  Does avacyn get shuffled back or stay in the "absolutely-removed-from-the-freaking-game-forever" zone?

[Gorzo]

Gah...un rules! I miss this stupidity I want un3 dammit!

I would think she'd get get shuffled back because it's starting a new game and clearing all zones, but honestly I could see just as valid of a logical argument for leaving her in AWOL. Someone get the MaRo signal! We have a crisis!

[Presentjackson]

I believe both awol and angel of hope would be left out since they werent exiled by karn 

[rarehuntertay]

I say that it is removed forever, and the card exiled by AWOL is marked and never used in another game of magic again...

[DirtyMustachio]

It's removed from the game "forever" zone.

So perhaps after your set of 3

[Anoobass]

It's up to you, I just thought of it when I saw it posted on another thread and it hit me.  Figured it would be a good question for the t1s and t2s we have out there.