Heroic + Possibilty Storm

[PSEUd0-DREAMzZ]

The Heroic ability says "Whenever you cast a spell that targets [creature]...," and Possibilty Storm says "Whenever a player casts a spell from his or her hand, that player exiles it..." I know by the rest of Possibilty Storm's ability, the exiled card with the same type as the original will apply to the Heroic creature (assuming it is a "target" spell), but what of the original spell? Upon casting the original (lets say Dauntless Onslaught), will the targeting happen simultaneously with casting, activating the Heroic target(s) ability(s) before the spell is exiled from Possibility Storm? Obviously, Dauntless Onslaught doesn't resolve, so there isn't any +2/+2 business, but does the targeting still apply?

[Millionlittlee]

Heroic still triggers

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

My take on it is the spell from the original spell cast still goes on the stack and as long as there is still a valid target for it when it's turn to resolve comes around you would still get any counters, benefits etc. the only thing you wouldn't get is a permanent (if the original spell cast was a creature, enchantment, planeswalker or artefact).

[particle]

its just the original targetting that matters. did you legally target it? heroic triggers, and spell doesnt have to resolve. thats why heroic + {hidden strings} + {nivmagus elemental} is really good.

[Destore117]

The Heroic ability says "Whenever you cast a spell that targets [creature]...," and {Possibilty Storm} says "Whenever a player casts a spell from his or her hand, that player exiles it..." I know by the rest of Possibilty Storm's ability, the exiled card with the same type as the original will apply to the Heroic creature (assuming it is a "target" spell), but what of the original spell? Upon casting the original (lets say Dauntless Onslaught), will the targeting happen simultaneously with casting, activating the Heroic target(s) ability(s) before the spell is exiled from Possibility Storm? Obviously, Dauntless Onslaught doesn't resolve, so there isn't any +2/+2 business, but does the targeting still apply?

[particle]

you announce targets as you announce the spell you are casting. the targets are known and heroic triggers regardless of the actual spell resolving or not.

[Gorzo]

Short answer: Yes, heroic still applies.

Long answer: say you have {Favored Hoplite} as your heroic reference.
-You cast {Dauntless Onslaught} targeting the hoplite. Both {Possibility Storm}'s trigger and Favored Hoplite's heroic trigger are added to the stack. The triggers are added in order of AP-NAP, unless the same players controls both things, in which case he/she chooses the stack order. (Dauntless Onslaught itself will be on the bottom below the triggers it caused)
-Priority is passed between players before anything resolves, allowing players to respond with instant-speed stuff. (Which would also trigger possibility storm and add their possibility trigger to the stack.
-Once people are done with effects, the stack starts resolving, top down.

Lets say the Possibility Storm resolves first:
-Possibility storm exiles dauntless onslaught and does its thing. If another instant that targets comes up, you MAY target hoplite for ANOTHER heroic trigger added to the stack. If it doesn't target, it resolves as normal and no more heroic triggers are added.
-The original Dauntless Onslaught heroic trigger resolves (assuming nothing has been put on the stack above it). Hoplite gets his counter and damage prevention for the turn.
-Dauntless onslaught isn't there anymore, so the stack is empty. The game continues!

If the Heroic trigger ends up on top of the possibility storm trigger, just reverse which order the two things resolve in - nothing changes, really, just the heroic resolves before you fetch a new spell with possibility storm.