Not life gain.

Started by Destore117, December 03, 2013, 09:52:51 PM

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Destore117

Does {Beacon of Immortality} double your life total if {Havoc Festival} is in play? It doesn't say you gain life.

Ekann1

This is from the rules on gatherer.wizards.com for havoc festival.  I would say this means that you can't double someone's life total with havoc festival on the battlefield, but I'm not completely sure


10/1/2012   If an effect says to set a player's life total to a certain number and that number is higher than the player's current life total, that part of the effect won't do anything. (If the number is lower than the player's current life total, the effect will work as normal.)

Destore117

But it doesn't specify a number. :/ ugh I really need a way around this. When my friend plays that card. I will lose because of one turn difference. I hate it.

Ekann1

You might be right. Guess we'll have to wait for someone who can find the right rule from the life gain section or wherever it is.

Destore117

Yeah. Well. Thanks for trying to help. You mcjt be right.

xStrayKnightx

Just look at the rulings for the card. Third card ruling states that its effect fits under the Lifegain ability. While it doesn't state a number, you still gain that life, therefore making it a Lifegain spell.

Kaleo42

Any increase in life is considered lifegain.

xStrayKnightx

The only thing with this card is that, if you have immortality running (say with {Phyrexian Unlife} + {Melira, Sylvok Outcast}), and you're at negative life, you need to do basic math. So double -10 is -20. That's the only time this card doesn't count as lifegain.

Destore117

Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 03, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
Any increase in life is considered lifegain.
So there's no way to increase my life to avoid this cards affect?
Oh well..

Gorzo

Whenever your life total changes, you are gaining or losing the difference. There's no way to increase your life total without gaining life.

Double-O-Scotch

Always a way around. {platinum empyrion}. You can't gain life, but you can't lose it either...