5/5 turn three

Started by Birdbrain, September 19, 2013, 08:49:08 AM

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MementoMori

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You're not casting a spell when you bloodrush. It won't trigger heroic.

Bloodrush is clearly an activated ability. Compare it to overload or bestow; both of those mechanics use the word "cast" in their text. Bloodrush is written as "[Cost]: [Effect]" and makes no mention of casting.

griffin131

Quote from: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on September 20, 2013, 08:14:38 AM
Quote from: Birdbrain on September 20, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Flashley_ska on September 20, 2013, 03:23:01 AM
1: Forest, {avacyn's pilgrim}.
2: Plains, {phalanx leader}, Rush {Slaughterhorn} on leader.
  Pilgrim is now 2/2 and the leader is 5/4 until end of turn, though neither can attack yet.
3: Land, {common bond}.
  Depending on multi target ruling, Pilgrim is a 4/4 & leader is a 6/6! Or u have the turn 3 5/5 with a 3/3 to accompany. Of course, a pair of growths in your hand instead of common bond would do even better, but as its selesnya that's where I'd want {advent of the wurm} instead for an even more threatening turn 4!
bloodrush doesn't target
It really does. "Target attacking creature..."
on another thread. Someone said it wouldn't work with heroic
It doesn't work because Bloodrush isn't casting a spell. Bloodrush definitely targets.

Steerpike

Ah, found it on mtgsalvation (i assume that's reliable)

"Heroic abilities trigger only once per spell, even if that spell targets the creature with the heroic ability multiple times"

Birdbrain

Quote from: Steerpike on September 21, 2013, 03:40:06 AM
Ah, found it on mtgsalvation (i assume that's reliable)

"Heroic abilities trigger only once per spell, even if that spell targets the creature with the heroic ability multiple times"
what about replicate? Technically with replicate your casting a whole new spell

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Turn 4 9/9...drop a {Heroes' Reunion} with a {Voracious Wurm}. If you put down a mana dork on T1 or T2 you could do it turn 3.

Flashley_ska

Replicate, and similar effects that say copy target spell copy it on the stack, so don't "cast" the copy.
If instead an effect says to copy target card(ref. {elite arcanist}) then cast the copy, you're good.

Flashley_ska

As far as I can tell, yes.