First try ever at esper control

Started by Hunteroffire9, August 11, 2013, 05:33:37 PM

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Kaleo42

Quote from: Mattao19 on August 13, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
Listen to him lol I was just saying
Nothing against you, that is just what everyone tries to say about esper. When you stop and think about it it becomes clear that OP cards do not always need to be played as 4 of's. There are lots of factors to consider that are all to often over looked. In this case the mana and time to cast the spell. The format has sped up a lot and leaves very little if any forgiveness for taking a turn to cast a revelation without having something really good to follow up with. 3-5 life revelations are a single creature's attack now days where as a year ago that was the entire swing for most attack phases.

Hunteroffire9

Alright changed it to an island. Any other changes do you recommend?

Mattao19

Quote from: Kaleo42 on August 13, 2013, 09:17:50 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 13, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
Listen to him lol I was just saying
Nothing against you, that is just what everyone tries to say about esper. When you stop and think about it it becomes clear that OP cards do not always need to be played as 4 of's. There are lots of factors to consider that are all to often over looked. In this case the mana and time to cast the spell. The format has sped up a lot and leaves very little if any forgiveness for taking a turn to cast a revelation without having something really good to follow up with. 3-5 life revelations are a single creature's attack now days where as a year ago that was the entire swing for most attack phases.

Oh I never took offense I am an aggro player myself but all my friends play Esper so I know how to play it. But I think you're a lot more knowledgable on it lol

Hunteroffire9

Alright once i get back from Vermont i will build it(I've been doing online testing)

Kaleo42

I dont like online control, judging the opponent's reactions and expressions is half of control in my play. I understand working with what you have is good, but a harder control like this it tough to test without a readable opponent. 

Hunteroffire9

I have not actualy built it yet because I'm on vacation just using cockatrice, but this deck will be for real life play

Mattao19

Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on August 14, 2013, 03:03:54 PM
I have not actualy built it yet because I'm on vacation just using cockatrice, but this deck will be for real life play

What's cockatrice?

Hunteroffire9


EvACiDe


Hunteroffire9

Mm I already have board wipes to destroy everything and azorius charm to bounce:/ and btw rift is amazing in edh bounces all there artifacts destroyed there tempo makes then replay everything return mana ramp artifacts to hand make them replay commander.. So good play it in edh;)

EvACiDe

Just figured I'd mention it because its pretty much a staple in standard right now

Hunteroffire9

Quote from: EvACiDe on August 16, 2013, 07:17:10 PM
Just figured I'd mention it because its pretty much a staple in standard right now
Not trying to be rude but how is it a staple if no competative decks run it.. Except maybe in the sb in American midrange...

EvACiDe

Quote from: bravado883 on August 16, 2013, 08:37:58 PM
Meh, {Cyclonic Rift} is one more way to combat {Burning Earth} among other things.  I think it's a pretty darn good, and could quite possibly become a staple after rotation.  I honestly think it's underplayed right now.

He made my point perfectly