Steal Enchantment

[Subiskier]

In a situation where someone plays {oblivion ring} on one of my creatures, can I play {steal enchantment} and choose a new target for it also getting my creature back?

[Subiskier]

I'm leaning towards no since it doesn't leave the battlefield

[Keyeto]

I'm leaning towards no since it doesn't leave the battlefield

This is correct. You would simply be its controller, and that's it.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I'm leaning towards no since it doesn't leave the battlefield

This is correct. You would simply be its controller, and that's it.

I am sure you are right but I was wondering can {Steal Enchantment} only work on spells that have entered the battlefield? Why can't it target spells on the stack like {Counterspell} and other "counter target spell" or "choose new targets for target spell" type cards do?

[Keyeto]

I'm leaning towards no since it doesn't leave the battlefield

This is correct. You would simply be its controller, and that's it.

I am sure you are right but I was wondering can {Steal Enchantment} only work on spells that have entered the battlefield? Why can't it target spells on the stack like {Counterspell} and other "counter target spell" or "choose new targets for target spell" type cards do?

Well, there's a couple reasons. First, enchantments have to attach to a permanent. Second, {Counterspell} isn't an enchantment, so it wouldn't be a valid target anyway.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I'm leaning towards no since it doesn't leave the battlefield

This is correct. You would simply be its controller, and that's it.

I am sure you are right but I was wondering can {Steal Enchantment} only work on spells that have entered the battlefield? Why can't it target spells on the stack like {Counterspell} and other "counter target spell" or "choose new targets for target spell" type cards do?

Well, there's a couple reasons. First, enchantments have to attach to a permanent. Second, {Counterspell} isn't an enchantment, so it wouldn't be a valid target anyway.

No, I am asking why {Steal Enchantment} can't target an enchantment on the stack in the same way {Reverberate} and {Counterspell} target spells on the stack.
If {Counterspell} could be used on the O-Ring why can't {Steal Enchantment}?
Is there a ruling or is it required that a permanent must enter the battlefield before you gain control of it? For example, could I {Act of Treason} your {Snapcaster Mage} before it hits so it enters the battlefield under my control or is there a rule saying it has to hit before you steal?

[Keyeto]

Ohhh alright. Well there's a couple reasons for that as well.

First off, they can't counter anything on the stack because they can't be cast at instant speed. Auras are sorcery speed (unless otherwise stated).

Second, and most important, they have to enter the battlefield attached to an object.

303.4.: Some enchantments have the subtype "Aura." An Aura enters the battlefield attached to an object or player. What an Aura can be attached to is defined by its enchant keyword ability (see rule 702.5, "Enchant"). Other effects can limit what a permanent can be enchanted by.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I don't understand the "they have to enter attached to a permanent" thing and Oblivion Ring isn't a Aura.

[Keyeto]

I don't understand the "they have to enter attached to a permanent" thing and Oblivion Ring isn't a Aura.

Auras have to attach to something as they enter. You can't play a {Pacifism} without a creature on the field to target. In the same way, you can't play {Steal Enchantment} without an enchantment on the field to target. If O-ring is on the stack, its not a permanent on the field yet, and cannot be targeted by {Steal Enchantment}. Once it hits the field, you can target it, but no earlier than that.

[MementoMori]

Oblivion Ring isn't a Aura.

{Steal Enchantment} is.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Oblivion Ring isn't a Aura.

{Steal Enchantment} is.

Oh. That explains it all. I never looked at {Steal Enchantment}'s subtype or supertype.

[Double-O-Scotch]

{barrin, master wizard}

Steal the aura, sac it to barrin to bounce a creature...