Rancor targeting

[Jdogtoocool]

If I cast {rancor} and there's a {voice of resurgence} and my opponent gets rid of it while I'm casting rancor can I attach it to a token since its still on the stack? Or do I have to declare a target when casting it?

[Keyeto]

You declare the target when casting. Since it will no longer have a legal target, it will fizzle.

608.2b: If the spell or ability specifies targets, it checks whether the targets are still legal. A target that's no longer in the zone it was in when it was targeted is illegal. Other changes to the game state may cause a target to no longer be legal; for example, its characteristics may have changed or an effect may have changed the text of the spell. If the source of an ability has left the zone it was in, its last known information is used during this process. The spell or ability is countered if all its targets, for every instance of the word "target," are now illegal. If the spell or ability is not countered, it will resolve normally. However, if any of its targets are illegal, the part of the spell or ability's effect for which it is an illegal target can't perform any actions on that target, make another object or player perform any actions on that target, or make that target perform any actions. The effect may still determine information about illegal targets, though, and other parts of the effect for which those targets are not illegal may still affect them.

[Gorzo]

Target is made as it goes on the stack, which is before Voice's 'create a token' trigger resolves. The token will resolve first, as it's added to the stack on top of the rancor, then rancor will come in attached to its original target. (Which no longer exists if that target was the destroyed Voice, so rancor would be countered)

Edit: Keyeto'd! By 10 seconds. Damn, he is a fast one.

[Keyeto]

Edit: Keyeto'd! By 10 seconds. Damn, he is a fast one.

Well, I had to get at least one "Keyeto" in today. I already got Kaleo'd twice!

[Jdogtoocool]

Very nice ok thanks guys