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Started by Agarrita80, June 20, 2013, 02:08:02 PM

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Agarrita80

Since  {Progenitus} has protection from everything , are you able to unburial rites him?

Coffee Vampire

#1
Progenitus has a replacement effect that makes you shuffle it into your linrary instead, so you would have a pretty hard time reanimating it! However to answer your question, cards like {Blood Baron} could indeed be reanimated by rites. This is because cards only have abilities when they are on the battlefield. Some creatures do have abilities when in the graveyard, but it is always stated (like cards with scavenge or {Gravecrawler}). Otherwise, no creatures' abilities work while in the yard.

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Agarrita80


Deathstorm

You unburial rites him with a  {Stifle} first

Double-O-Scotch

#4
{stifle} doesn't work the way I think you think it does. It doesn't stop "protection from" it just stops activated or triggered abilities.

See {sensei's divining top}

An activated ability is something where you {T}: something happens, or pay mana and something happens. Basically a cost and effect separated by a colon ( : )

See {shivan dragon}
Or {stirling grove}

Coffee Vampire

I think he means stiffle the replacement effect.

scarsabrex


Deathstorm

Why can't you stifle it it goes on the stack does it not so you should be able to stifle it

Double-O-Scotch

Because it doesn't counter the stack, it counters a triggered or activated ability.

Giggle the Draco Genius

We never said that  {Stifle} counters the stack, but it should be able to counter the replacement effect since it is a triggered ability

603.1.: Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as "[Trigger condition], [effect]," and begin with the word "when," "whenever," or "at." They can also be expressed as "[When/Whenever/At] [trigger event], [effect]."

Agarrita80

Yes activated has the tap symbol or a cost, but triggered is any ability as mentioned in above post

scarsabrex

Quote from: Giggleflat on June 22, 2013, 11:02:53 AM
We never said that  {Stifle} counters the stack, but it should be able to counter the replacement effect since it is a triggered ability

603.1.: Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as "[Trigger condition], [effect]," and begin with the word "when," "whenever," or "at." They can also be expressed as "[When/Whenever/At] [trigger event], [effect]."

Actually the whole point of replacement effects are theyl fact that they are not triggered abilities. Progenitus effect starts with "if".
Compare to a similar but stifleable card like {emrakul the aeons torn}

Giggle the Draco Genius

Ah I see. Replacement effects come from a static ability from the card not a triggered ability like on   {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}.

I did not know that, thanks

Deathstorm

Thank you for explaining it better than double oo scotch

Double-O-Scotch

Sorry for the confusion.