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Started by Fenster, February 08, 2013, 12:13:31 PM

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Piotr

Quote from: Fenster on February 09, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: Piotr on February 09, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
It is oppressive because it forces me to do something against my will. Notice how incompatible this whole idea of taxation is with iMtG Law.
Well yeah. I get that. But arent you forced to do many things against your will?
If you want to be completely free you need to be able to live on by your own hand. Grow your own food. Build your own house. Heal your own wounds. But society doesnt work this way.

What has freedom to do with that? I'm arguing ethics here. In society you obtain things in exchange for your services, or you forcefully take things from others against their will.

Quote from: Fenster on February 09, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
In society each brings his own end to the table then everyone shares. Now not everyone gets the same size portion. Not by far. The way the modern tax system works is that it forces the people around the table to share a little bit more equal. That way everyone gets better. And can bring more food to the table next time.
And this does work. If it didnt it wouldnt be present in nearly every democratic country in the world.

You don't prove right or wrong in ethics by voting. The tyranny of democracy is this: 'this does work' for the two wolves but not for the sheep, when they get to vote what's for dinner.

Quote from: Fenster on February 09, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
Oppressive? No. You dont have to work and earn money and pay taxes. Feel free to sustain yourself without a goverments support. Its not illegal.

Unfortunately it is illegal, hence the tax system is oppressive.

Quote from: Fenster on February 09, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
I want to end with saying its been fun and healthy to have this discussion with you.
And i have gained a new perspective on things i didnt have before :)

I hope i have not offended.

Ditto ;)