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#1
Rules / Re: Awe strike and deflecting palm
July 09, 2016, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 09, 2016, 07:43:10 AM
Yeah, interaction of replacement effects is pretty complex, as it works quite different from triggered effects on the stack.

Can't reproduce an example for a controller-less object in this instance. In the case of damage, the source pretty much always has one.

Plenty of times. An object only has a controller when it is on the stack or in play. In any other zone, an object has no controller, only an owner.

So if, for example, two replacement effects were trying to get you to discard a card for different reasons, then the owner of that card (i.e. you) makes the decision. The card in your hand has no controller.


^^ from a mtg salvation ruling discussing 419.9a
#2
Commander / Re: Birdemic
June 12, 2016, 08:04:44 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 12, 2016, 03:25:29 PM
{dovescape} is not legal in this deck. Duel mana give a creature both colors for its color identity, meaning dovescape is blue/white.
{jotun owl keeper} is also not legal here because of the blue symbol in the cumulative upkeep. Maybe try a blue white bird commander?
#3
Ideas and Feedback / sinkhole
June 12, 2016, 07:16:42 PM
{Sinkhole} seems to be missing from eternal masters on here as far as I can tell.
#4
Rules / Re: +1/+1 counters on a man land
June 08, 2016, 08:57:01 PM
{raging ravine}
#5
Discussion / Re: Fake Liliana of the Veils
May 31, 2016, 02:40:12 PM
I would test the other two that you have. Just because one was fake doesn't guarantee the other two are. It could have slipped past the store just like it slipped past you.
#6
Rules / Re: Illusionist's Bracers
May 30, 2016, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on May 30, 2016, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: particle on May 30, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on May 30, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
My friend is making a  {Narset, Enlightened Master} turns EDH deck. We aren't sure whether or not  {Illusionist's Bracers} would work with  {Narset, Enlightened Master}'s attack ability.

Narset doesn't have any activated abilities and won't interact with {illusionist's bracers.} activated abilities have a cost, than a colon, then the result. Triggered abilities, like what narset has, begin with whenever, when or something like along those lines. You may be better served by using {strionic resonator} since it copies triggered abilities instead.
Would  {Strionic Resonator} be able to copy planeswalker abilities?

You are having a bit of trouble identifying triggered abilities and activated abilities. An activated ability starts with a cost then has a colon and then after the colon is the result of of activating this ability. A few examples of activated abilities, {azorious guildmage}, {prodigal sorcerer}, {arachnus spinner}. To name a few. All of these creatures have a cost you may pay, and then once this ability resolves you get the effect stated. Planeswalker abilities, also known as loyalty abilities, are activated abilities since they have a cost (add or remove x loyalty counters), a colon, and a result.

Triggered abilities are different. They trigger when another event happens. Abilities that start when x happens or whenever x happens do this are triggered abilities. Some examples include {eternal witness}, {wild growth} and {deathgreeter}. Note that both activated and triggered abilities can be on enchantments, artifacts basically anything.
#7
Rules / Re: Illusionist's Bracers
May 30, 2016, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on May 30, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
My friend is making a  {Narset, Enlightened Master} turns EDH deck. We aren't sure whether or not  {Illusionist's Bracers} would work with  {Narset, Enlightened Master}'s attack ability.

Narset doesn't have any activated abilities and won't interact with {illusionist's bracers.} activated abilities have a cost, than a colon, then the result. Triggered abilities, like what narset has, begin with whenever, when or something like along those lines. You may be better served by using {strionic resonator} since it copies triggered abilities instead.
#8
Rules / Re: avacyn blinked
May 09, 2016, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 09, 2016, 11:50:54 AM
So is there a moment when she transforms, bolt goes on stack, that you can blink her and have her make your stuff invincible?

When she transforms to red side, bolt trigger goes on the stack. It has targets and still must pass priority on both sides to resolve. Respond as necessary.
#9
Combo Corner / Re: Two Card Combos
May 03, 2016, 12:43:30 AM
Quote from: André Maartens on May 01, 2016, 03:31:21 PM
Add {Retraction Helix} onto {Zephyr Scribe} and play in sync with {Elusive Spellfist} and use {Spidersilk Net} and bam infinite combo and then you have one mighty fine spellfist!

Sadly, the ability being granted by {retraction helix} when activated, is not "casting a spell." It's "activating an ability." Only the actually casting of the spell {retraction helix} would trigger these creatures, not any of the actual bouncing. No infinite untappig here. đŸ˜¢
#10
Rules / Re: Cascade
May 01, 2016, 08:35:09 PM
So are you saying that it went to exile, and then went to the bottom, cause that would be correct. Or it just stayed in exile.
Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card whose converted mana cost is less than this spell's converted mana cost. You may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then put all cards exiled this way that weren't cast on the bottom of your library in a random order.)

The cards are exiled first, but then upon resolution moved to the bottom in random order.
#11
Rules / Re: Eldrazi Titan reshuffle ability
April 25, 2016, 06:37:04 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on April 25, 2016, 05:59:13 PM
So instant speed graveyard hate can exile a titan while it lies in wait in the grave for that moment in time? (confirming pre-emptively)

Cards like {blightsteel colossus}, however, never hit the graveyard because of a replacement effect and thus can't be affected by graveyard hate.
#12
Rules / Re: Spreading Plague
April 25, 2016, 06:35:33 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on April 25, 2016, 06:02:17 PM
So simultaneous entry doesn't kill the tokens?

example:

Hornet queen enters
then her tokens enter
she dies
but the tokens kill each other too right?
Simultaneous entry does kill each other. Queen etb resolves. Hornets all enter and all trigger. Each trigger kills the other ones that are left and they don't need the one that caused the trigger to be alive when it resolves.

Coffee vampire, note that you missed one trigger. When the wurms etb after fatty dies, they also trigger the enchantment. They will kill each other and hornet queen. Then insects enter and kill each other.
Buzz.
#13
Rules / Re: Avacyn
April 13, 2016, 01:13:52 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on April 11, 2016, 09:32:40 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on April 11, 2016, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on April 11, 2016, 07:37:45 PM
yea, happens to me last month with {Thought-Knot Seer} got killed by {Murderous Cut} and i exiled nothing because thats his last card, also sad night for me that time
That's incorrect.
TKS ETB on the stack.
Cut the TKS.
Cut resolves.
TKS leave the battlefield trigger goes on the stack.

They draw a card and then exile it.

oh? thanks for clearing, will explain that to my opponent tonight

Correct. This is why {eldrazi displacer} targeting your own {thought-knot seer} is super gross. Since no triggers go on the stack until the ability resolves fully, you can stack the leaves the battlefield ability to resolve before the enters the battlefield ability and they will draw before having to discard. They will get priority and can cast {murderous cut} or something.
#14
Is it just flavor to make {goldnight castigator} have 9 toughness and then take double damage? I understand the relevance of double damage to you, but why not just make her have 4 or 5 toughness and not take double damage? When would this be relevant?

Edit: doesn't die to {dismember}
#15
Rules / Re: Alesha
March 15, 2016, 12:32:59 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on March 15, 2016, 12:09:32 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 15, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on March 14, 2016, 02:42:36 PM
damn you Alesha for making my walls attack...
Great thing is, it works with other limiting things too.  {Master of Cruelties} can attack just fine if Alesha calls on him to join her.
Same with  {Bloodcrazed Goblin} or {Floodchaser} (if not in commander).
Would this be he same with Demons, Angels, and Dragons for  {Kaalia of the Vast}? So say there was an Angel with defender could Kaalia cheat it out and force it to attack in the same way Alesha would?  I know it works for  {Master of Cruelties}.

Works the same. Can be brought in w the evil lady.