20 {Swamp}
20 lands
4 {Shimian Specter}
4 {Hypnotic Specter}
4 {Gatekeeper of Malakir}
2 {Nyxathid}
14 creatures
2 {Despise}
4 {Quest for the Nihil Stone}
4 {Dark Ritual}
2 {Mutilate}
4 {Duress}
4 {The Rack}
2 {Liliana's Caress}
4 {Hymn to Tourach}
26 other spells
Sideboard
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This is a 2nd attempt at a MBC deck and it seems a bit more solid. I've messed with it quite a bit over the last few days and want it to be the best it can be. Does anyone have any ideas?
MBC?
Quote from: Thorn on August 04, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
MBC?
mono-black control ( I apologize for the confusion)
I would run 3 {Despise} and 3 {Duress} instead of 2 and 4.
And {The Rack} seems to work directly agaisnt your discardy strategy. I would sugest maybe something like {Phyrexian Oblitorator}
Those seem like good suggestions. I used {the rack} as a win condition because if you get your opponent to 0 cards in their hand, they still have to lose life. Do you think replacing it with {phyrexian obliterator} is just as good (or better) than it?
{Phyrexian Oblitorator} is the biggest pain in the whole universe!
Especially with {Dark Ritual} you can play it on turn 2!
That's a good point ( I can't believe I forgot about dark ritual lol one of the best black cards ever bc it can plug into any black deck IMO) but thanks for the advice lol
Quote from: 15bm on August 04, 2012, 10:38:59 PM
That's a good point ( I can't believe I forgot about dark ritual lol one of the best black cards ever bc it can plug into any black deck IMO) but thanks for the advice lol
No prob.
Another of my fav cards is {Bomehoard} because with all the creatures being discarded and killed it gets huge quick.
You're right. With {phyrexian obliterator}, {bonehoard} looks like it could get big quick, and then add in discard and the fun continues lol
Good call
Quote from: 15bm on August 04, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
You're right. With {phyrexian obliterator}, {bonehoard} looks like it could get big quick, and then add in discard and the fun continues lol
Good call
{Livewire Lash} does basically the same thing for you.
{Bonehoard} seems to be a more effective option because it grows fairly quickly assuming a T1{despise} T2 {Phyrexian obliterator} and a T3 {gatekeeper of malakir} ( kicked) and then a T4 {bonehoard}
Quote from: 15bm on August 04, 2012, 10:51:49 PM
{Bonehoard} seems to be a more effective option because it grows fairly quickly assuming a T1{despise} T2 {Phyrexian obliterator} and a T3 {gatekeeper of malakir} ( kicked) and then a T4 {bonehoard}
I refuse to vs you.
A lot of people in my playgroup do because I have a burn deck and a deck that uses an infinite{ mindslaver} lock combo lol
I don't know if I would be luck enough to get that hand, but If I equipped {bonehoard} to the {phyrexian obliterator} a lot of people would scoop then and there lol
My friend has a mono-white exile deck with {Feind Hunter}
{Oblivion Ring}
{Journey to Nowhere}
{Swords To Plowshares}
and other junk and it shuts down my oblitorator every time.
That sucks lol
At least your a good sport and don't refuse to play them lol
Quote from: 15bm on August 04, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
That sucks lol
At least your a good sport and don't refuse to play them lol
Lets just say that {Duress} has helped me more than anything else.
With your mana curve so low, you may want to replace dark ritual with other cards.
But with dark ritual I can get {phyrexian obliterator out turn 2, so wouldn't I rather cut swamps?
hooooly crap I didn't notice you had only 20 lands!! keep the rituals.
But just so ya know, if you have less than 24 lands it is usually not good to cut lands out for other spells. You can, but it will affect everything a lot more. Also, getting phyrexian oblit out t2 is good but just be careful on basing your reason for having a card on just 1 situation. If you don't pull the combo off by turn 4 you might as well have run other cards besides ritual.
Ik I only have 20 lands, but the highest CMC of anything is 4, so do I really need 24 lands
And with {phyrexian obliterator}, it came down to me needing a win condition and a way to control the board, and it does both, so I cut {the rack} for it. Do you think it was worth it?
yeah, having a win con is important. You can't just ping them and make them discard forever...you have to win somehow! Obliterator is a really good win con.