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Title: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Lord Of Darkness on August 03, 2012, 06:52:25 PM
This works against non-white creature- based decks, elves is just the first that comes to mind.

Gideon Jura + Norn's Annex

Kinda conditional but it's always fun to force an opponent to suicide...
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
Bombo.  Opponent's can always chose not to pay and prevent their creatures from attacking.  Sorry.   :-\
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Thorn on August 03, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
What about {Norn's Annex} and {Curse of the Nightly Hunt}
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 07:45:21 PM
Same thing.
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Lord Of Darkness on August 03, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
Well to my understanding if something forces an attack and another effect makes the attacking creature's controller pay life then even if the player doesn't have the life to pay they still have to. If I'm wrong then please leave a link with the correct rulings, that's just how I understand it
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Maximo on August 03, 2012, 09:45:52 PM
Leave standard and you get {lightmine field}.
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 10:32:07 PM
Well, it's under the card rulings, but here's the text.

508.1d The active player checks each creature he or she controls to see whether it's affected by any requirements (effects that say a creature must attack, or that it must attack if some condition is met). If the number of requirements that are being obeyed is fewer than the maximum possible number of requirements that could be obeyed without disobeying any restrictions, the declaration of attackers is illegal. If a creature can't attack unless a player pays a cost, that player is not required to pay that cost, even if attacking with that creature would increase the number of requirements being obeyed.
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: scarsabrex on August 03, 2012, 11:01:51 PM
I can tell you're new to the forums. with only two posts you have already challenged the jester our resident rules master. You'll see him in the forum cleaning up all the misunderstandings in this forum.

Because it has not been done yet.

This case is resolved.

Welcome to IMTG!
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Hey now!  I want everyone here, new and old to feel free to question my calls. I can (and do) make mistakes and questioning means that I need to add more detail because it's not clear, or I am geniunely wrong.

Confirmed means a high degree of confidence in the answer provided.

Welcome to iMtG! 😄
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Falcon182 on August 03, 2012, 11:57:00 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Hey now!  I want everyone here, new and old to feel free to question my calls. I can (and do) make mistakes and questioning means that I need to add more detail because it's not clear, or I am geniunely wrong.

Confirmed means a high degree of confidence in the answer provided.

Welcome to iMtG! 😄

Confirmed.
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 04, 2012, 12:07:27 AM
Are you mocking me?  ???

'Cause that's awesome! 😂👍 Good stuff!🍻
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: AgrusKos on August 04, 2012, 12:48:26 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Hey now!  I want everyone here, new and old to feel free to question my calls. I can (and do) make mistakes and questioning means that I need to add more detail because it's not clear, or I am geniunely wrong.

Confirmed means a high degree of confidence in the answer provided.

Welcome to iMtG! 😄
I feel free. Jester, I'm questioning your statement of modesty. Meaning, you are Always Right. Except when you called {Midnight Guard} {Midnight Watch}🔨
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: AgrusKos on August 04, 2012, 12:57:19 AM
Some stuff you might want to know
{BJ}- Rules Advisor
{Gorzo}- Commander Expert
{Me}- Nothing, I have no real significance
{Piotr}- Maker of the app
{Cntrl81}- Mod, along with BJ
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 04, 2012, 12:59:13 AM
And when he said that if a commander is exiled it is exiled and cannot go to the commander zone....yes I remember that lol

Oh and I think once he made a sundial combo that didn't work. But he was the one who later discovered it doesn't work so I dunno...:0
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 04, 2012, 01:13:50 AM
Are we just spamming this thread since its a Bombo?

Why don't we just start a new thread called "BlackJester's Follies"?  😂
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: smokin terry on August 04, 2012, 06:21:28 AM
Card in standard now is {blood reckoning}. It will work with Gideon.
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Ghebert on August 04, 2012, 10:44:38 AM
Quote from: AgrusKos on August 04, 2012, 12:57:19 AM
Some stuff you might want to know
{BJ}- Rules Advisor
{Gorzo}- Commander Expert
{Me}- Nothing, I have no real significance
{Piotr}- Maker of the app
{Cntrl81}- Mod, along with BJ
Um hello... What about me?

{Ghebert} -- BJ's Gavel Caddy 🔨🔨🔨
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Xanzurth on August 05, 2012, 01:17:46 PM
No back to the topic run multiple copies of {engineered plague}
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Gorzo on August 05, 2012, 04:34:26 PM
Forget Gideon and use {Mindslaver} or Sorin's ultimate + {Norn's Annex}. Make em choose to attack and pay life. Done. :P
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: AgrusKos on August 05, 2012, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: Ghebert on August 04, 2012, 10:44:38 AM
Quote from: AgrusKos on August 04, 2012, 12:57:19 AM
Some stuff you might want to know
{BJ}- Rules Advisor
{Gorzo}- Commander Expert
{Me}- Nothing, I have no real significance
{Piotr}- Maker of the app
{Cntrl81}- Mod, along with BJ
Um hello... What about me?

{Ghebert} -- BJ's Gavel Caddy 🔨🔨🔨
Pfft
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Cindjor on August 05, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
{Eradicate} everything that survives {engineered plague}
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Mentonin on August 05, 2012, 06:45:21 PM
In 8 thousand posts, jester got the rules wrong 2 times that I know of...
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 05, 2012, 07:22:13 PM
Quote from: Mentonin on August 05, 2012, 06:45:21 PM
In 8 thousand posts, jester got the rules wrong 2 times that I know of...
Not bad, eh? 😜
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: CajunJynx on August 06, 2012, 04:52:39 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Hey now!  I want everyone here, new and old to feel free to question my calls. I can (and do) make mistakes and questioning means that I need to add more detail because it's not clear, or I am geniunely wrong.


Confirmed means a high degree of confidence in the answer provided.

Welcome to iMtG! 😄
Pffft, BJ is a hater.
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: BlackJester on August 06, 2012, 08:42:57 PM
/hatin'
8)
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Superkurd13 on August 07, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
No matter how much you know, you can always be wrong with mtg rules.
Title: Re: How to annoy people running annoying elf decks
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on August 09, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
Quote from: Superkurd13 on August 07, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
No matter how much you know, you can always be wrong with mtg rules.

Nuff said