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Title: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Brandalog on August 03, 2012, 09:34:02 AM
So I need your guys help deciding on the deck I want to make. A three color {heartless summoning} deck, or a four color {unburial rites} deck. Both will still be viable when RtR comes in so I'd like to build one of the two because they're both one of my favorite deck types.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: #noided on August 03, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
Frites is wayyyy better than heartless.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Silent1236 on August 03, 2012, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Gummuh on August 03, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
Frites is wayyyy better than heartless.

This.  You lose friends quickly lol
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Kaleo42 on August 03, 2012, 11:06:56 AM
Lets see. Rites, {tormod's cript}, {grafdigger's cage}, {ground seal}, {nihil spellbomb}.
Heartless, half the decks out there dont have an answer for, and you dont have to pull heartless to win, turn 5 titan is still powerful and a playset of {bonfire of the damned} and some early game 2,3, and 4 drops will keep you alive or sometimes even kill.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Thorn on August 03, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Heartless is 10 times better.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Both?   ;)
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Thorn on August 03, 2012, 12:13:56 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Both?   ;)
Innnnnteeeerrrreeeestttinnnnng...
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Brandalog on August 03, 2012, 12:32:03 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Both?   ;)

I actually tried combining them but it dint work out all that well XD
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: smokin terry on August 03, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Both?   ;)
I told him to do that.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: BlackJester on August 03, 2012, 01:35:46 PM
I know not from competitive.  I know only from fun.   ;D
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Brandalog on August 03, 2012, 01:57:26 PM
Well, the heartless deck would be more painful on my wallet but it's a solid build.

The unburial deck will be easy to get but it's my own home brew so it may not be so stable.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Kaleo42 on August 03, 2012, 02:10:53 PM
What do you have of the heartless build, i know of many different options that are viable.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Brandalog on August 03, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
I have the heartless, the havengul lich, wurmcoil, one thundermaw, the alchemys. Spellskite, a couple other fattys iCan use. But not the expensive stuff
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 03, 2012, 02:16:31 PM
Yeah you need 4 bonfires...3 hellkites or 2. Very expensive!
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Kaleo42 on August 03, 2012, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Brandalog on August 03, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
I have the heartless, the havengul lich, wurmcoil, one thundermaw, the alchemys. Spellskite, a couple other fattys iCan use. But not the expensive stuff
Then run the white or black version and splash red just for combo. I used to run a blue version that had just one mountain that i would search with solemn early to be safe incase i hit combo. Black has {rune-scarred demon}, {massacre wurm}, and {sheoldred, the whispering one}. White has {sun titan}, {auramancer}, {dead weight} senergy, and blue has {frost titan}, {forbidden alchemy} and all the clones ou could want.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Willthomjr on August 03, 2012, 06:32:47 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on August 03, 2012, 11:06:56 AM
Lets see. Rites, {tormod's cript}, {grafdigger's cage}, {ground seal}, {nihil spellbomb}.
Heartless, half the decks out there dont have an answer for, and you dont have to pull heartless to win, turn 5 titan is still powerful and a playset of {bonfire of the damned} and some early game 2,3, and 4 drops will keep you alive or sometimes even kill.

Ya know, I play tested heartless to Delver UW, and got beat 5/7 matches. Mana leak hurts and so does snag. Side gets worse with {sword of war and peace} nulling bonfire and inferno Titan.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Willthomjr on August 03, 2012, 06:33:54 PM
I'm guessing cavern would get sided but are you gonna play with 3-4 of them?
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Malachiracer on August 03, 2012, 06:45:59 PM
Hello? Can I get some help with my Jund deck?
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Kaleo42 on August 03, 2012, 08:26:54 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on August 03, 2012, 06:33:54 PM
I'm guessing cavern would get sided but are you gonna play with 3-4 of them?
Look back at my heartburn deck, i side {frost titan} and cavern and just titan beat.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Dudecore on August 04, 2012, 06:08:05 PM
heartless is sort of rogue at this point, you might steal some wins from other meta decks.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Harmon74 on August 04, 2012, 10:11:03 PM
I've only seen B/U heartless in my meta, but it's been about 3 or so weeks since I've been able to go to a.
Title: Re: Heartless or rites?
Post by: Dudecore on August 04, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
So just play against the meta. If they run {Heartless Summoning}, you run solar flare. If all else fails, run mono black zombies...